Trump's Response to COVID-19

Discussion in 'Politics' started by walkoflife, Mar 18, 2020.

  1. walkoflife

    walkoflife Some Assembly Required Staff Member Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator HipForums Supporter

  2. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Members

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  3. Cases are heading south again over the last 5 days, give it another week
  4. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Members

    Oh is that where you live ??? - New South Wales ???
  5. Which is what exactly?
  6. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Members

    Quote From Dr. Fauci

    “Chickenpox is a virus. Lots of people have had it, and probably don't think about it much once the initial illness has passed. But it stays in your body and lives there forever, and maybe when you're older, you have debilitatingly painful outbreaks of shingles. You don't just get over this virus in a few weeks, never to have another health effect. We know this because it's been around for years, and has been studied medically for years

    Herpes is also a virus. And once someone has it, it stays in your body and lives there forever, and anytime they get a little run down or stressed-out they're going to have an outbreak. Maybe every time you have a big event coming up (school pictures, job interview, big date) you're going to get a cold sore. For the rest of your life. You don't just get over it in a few weeks. We know this because it's been around for years, and been studied medically for years

    HIV is a virus. It attacks the immune system and makes the carrier far more vulnerable to other illnesses. It has a list of symptoms and negative health impacts that goes on and on. It was decades before viable treatments were developed that allowed people to live with a reasonable quality of life. Once you have it, it lives in your body forever and there is no cure. Over time, that takes a toll on the body, putting people living with HIV at greater risk for health conditions such as cardiovascular disease, kidney disease, diabetes, bone disease, liver disease, cognitive disorders, and some types of cancer. We know this because it has been around for years, and had been studied medically for years.

    Now with COVID-19, we have a novel virus that spreads rapidly and easily. The full spectrum of symptoms and health effects is only just beginning to be cataloged, much less understood

    So far the symptoms may include:






    Acute respiratory distress

    Lung damage (potentially permanent)

    Loss of taste (a neurological symptom

    Sore throat


    Difficulty breathing

    Mental confusion


    Nausea or vomiting

    Loss of appetite

    Strokes have also been reported in some people who have COVID-19 (even in the relatively young)

    Swollen eyes

    Blood clots


    Liver damage

    Kidney damage


    COVID toes (weird, right?)

    People testing positive for COVID-19 have been documented to be sick even after 60 days. Many people are sick for weeks, get better, and then experience a rapid and sudden flare up and get sick all over again. A man in Seattle was hospitalized for 62 days, and while well enough to be released, still has a long road of recovery ahead of him. Not to mention a $1.1 million medical bill.

    Then there is MIS-C. Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children is a condition where different body parts can become inflamed, including the heart, lungs, kidneys, brain, skin, eyes, or gastrointestinal organs. Children with MIS-C may have a fever and various symptoms, including abdominal pain, vomiting, diarrhea, neck pain, rash, bloodshot eyes, or feeling extra tired. While rare, it has caused deaths.

    This disease has not been around for years. It has basically been 6 months. No one knows yet the long-term health effects, or how it may present itself years down the road for people who have been exposed. We literally *do not know* what we do not know.

    For those in our society who suggest that people being cautious are cowards, for people who refuse to take even the simplest of precautions to protect themselves and those around them, I want to ask, without hyperbole and in all sincerity:

    How dare you?

    How dare you risk the lives of others so cavalierly. How dare you decide for others that they should welcome exposure as "getting it over with", when literally no one knows who will be the lucky "mild symptoms" case, and who may fall ill and die. Because while we know that some people are more susceptible to suffering a more serious case, we also know that 20 and 30-year-olds have died, marathon runners and fitness nuts have died, children and infants have died.

    How dare you behave as though you know more than medical experts, when those same experts acknowledge that there is so much we don't yet know, but with what we DO know, are smart enough to be scared of how easily this is spread, and recommend baseline precautions such as:

    Frequent hand-washing

    Physical distancing

    Reduced social/public contact or interaction

    Mask wearing

    Covering your cough or sneeze

    Avoiding touching your face

    Sanitising frequently touched surfaces

    The more things we can all do to mitigate our risk of exposure, the better off we all are, in my opinion. Not only does it flatten the curve and allow health care providers to maintain levels of service that aren't immediately and catastrophically overwhelmed; it also reduces unnecessary suffering and deaths, and buys time for the scientific community to study the virus in order to come to a more full understanding of the breadth of its impacts in both the short and long term.

    I reject the notion that it's "just a virus" and we'll all get it eventually. What a careless, lazy, heartless stance.”
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  7. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment

    "But nobody likes me..." ~ Donald J. Trump

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  8. Vladimir Illich

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    Ahhhh diddums , what a shame !!!
  9. Idlewild

    Idlewild Members

    In a related story, Louie Gohmert--known as America's dumbest Congressperson--has contracted covid-19.

    ... and he spent much of yesterday hanging out with AG Barr--neither wearing masks.
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  10. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member

    Reminds me of one of the best videos ever made of trump......

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  11. Rehab44

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  12. So, he doesnt think we will all get Sars-CoV-2 eventually, based on his feelings semingly, and he thinks MIS-C has only been around for 6 months?
    1. He is actually admitting in that, that the 14 day quarantine was always inadequate

    2. Almost all of that he himself just copied from the CDC site

    3. He believes MIS-C is only 6 months old, and is caused by Sars-CoV-2? That's incredibly stupid to say something like that at this stage
  13. Flagme15

    Flagme15 Members

    I don't know man. I think it's a toss up between him, Matt Gaetz, Jim Jordan, and Ted Cruz.

    I thought this said hanging out with VG.
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  14. Tyrsonswood

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    Jim (Gym) Jordan is beyond dumb... He's a fucking moron.
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  15. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member

    Fauci is good, real good, but he should have led a team of experts with multiple opinions, but trump wanted
    a point-man (i.e. a fall guy) that everyone could blame in case things went south, ...............

    ..........and oh, btw they did…(pun intended)
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2020
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  16. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment

    "Bigly..." ~ Donald J. Trump
  17. We agree on something

    Fauci was set up to be the fall guy, still doesn't seem to realise it

    Why you've never seen Francis Collins put his face on camera, or his deputy
  18. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

    I guess we don't know for sure what he is talking about but even in the 1960's your theory is highly unlikely considering all the security around the phone line he is using.
    Unlike Trump JFK took all that seriously because Russia is an enemy not your boss. There was no Iphone to compromise like with Trump but affairs work best when no one knows especially people like the secret service which tell Jackie.

    And most important how does his phone sex make Trump's mistakes matter less? They don't.
  19. "US President Donald Trump has named Australia among a list of countries that is now suffering a “second wave” after doing initially well at handling the pandemic.

    “A resurgence has taken place in many countries that people thought were doing well. Despite a wide range of approaches to the pandemic, this resurgence in cases is occurring throughout large portions of our planet – in Japan, China, Australia, Belgium, Spain, France, Germany, Hong Kong – places where they thought they’d really done great,” he said at a press conference today. “It came back, and in a couple of cases came back very strongly.”

    Donald Trump says pandemic is ‘devastating’ Australia
  20. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member

    Donald Trump couldn't find Australia on a map if he tried.
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