Trump Says Time To 'let Obamacare Fail'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL3jhoP6NME

 

He says it so flippantly, with zero apparent regard for the human toll that it such negligence will incur. "It's easier that way." Wtf? For whom?

 

So in other words Trump can't come up with a good feasible alternative and so he is just conceding, but can't actually admit it.....LOL
My mama didn't raise no fool and I know how to "read between the lines".



and when in the Hell are these Trumpite idiots gonna stop whining about Hillary and Obama, It's fucking over, the morons of America won


NOW DEAL WITH THE SELF-SERVING MORON YOU ELECTED.

 

To me this seems completely insane. As a UK citizen, and of modest means, I just feel for those in the US who will be affected by loss of healthcare.

Our system is under attack from our own bunch of self-serving idiots who run the place, but it's still there, although being gradually bled due to insufficient funding. Just 2 days ago I had to call an ambulance in the middle of the night. I went to hospital, got thoroughly checked out, x-rayed, given medication to help with the problem, and was able to go home after about 5 hours. Next day, I saw my doctor, got more meds and again, scheduled for a further consultation at a later date. Cost to me? Zero at point of delivery. It comes out of my taxes. Effect on my somewhat worried and concerned state over my problem? A feeling of gratitude that I live in a country where healthcare is there for all, 24/7 365. Long live socialism!

 

Are we great yet?

 

How and according to what criteria do we measure America's greatness or lack of it?

If one measure would be about the impression made on people in other countries by DT's actions and his bellicose rhetoric, then really not that great at all.

No offence intended to individual Americans on here, many of whom I like and respect. I don't think my own country is particularly great either if that's any consolation. Both have some good people and nice scenery. Both are politically in a very poor condition.

 

It's rhetoric.

I was making fun of Trump's promise to "Make America Great Again!"

 

It frustrates me to hear young healthy American idiots proudly state that everyone should be financially responsible for their own healthcare

Idiots who have never been sick or known someone who is sick and who have no idea of the cost

I just want to ask these people - what if you lose your employer subsidized (I doubt they even realize the extent their employer subsidizes!) insurance today and get diagnosed with cancer tomorrow? What will you do?

Selfish idiots. So many people actually live that very same or a similar situation

 

it failed before it ever began

 

Thanks. I'm still not quite back to my usual state, but getting there.

I tried to find out how much it costs the NHS to send an ambulance, but haven't been able to yet.

 

Most parts where it is failing it is apparently due to obstruction from republicans.
Trump's supposed alternative that didn't make it (partly because enough people on both sides of the spectrum acknowledged it would be worse than Obama care ) would be providing 'even' less people with good healthcare. So it appears its not so bad after all. And it makes little sense actively getting rid of it or letting it go down before there's a better alternative.

 

Closest I can find - £254.57 to call and be taken to hospital. ($330.76). That seems on the face of it to compare well with the $2,700 in the link. And I have to say I think that probably the service was just as good as it would be under a private healthcare system. My ambulance ride in a high tech ambulance with 2 paramedics was also around 2 miles.

I'm glad I don't have to find that money. And no doubt I'd be paying a lot more for the actual treatment I received. And the ongoing care I will get from my own doctor.

 

LOL I recall an uninsured guy (rare) in my country who got into an accident and people called an ambulance for him. He was so pissed and yelling it wasn't needed (it was, unless someone would have offered to drive him to a hospital but that wasn't the case). He got a big bill. Yeah not really funny but...

 

is that because of the actual policy or because it was Obama?


don't you think it's about time you started worrying about the future and stop whining about the past?

 

That doesn't excuse the current administration's inability to fix it.

 

Maybe at least some of that attitude comes from the idea that 'it won't happen to me'. But nobody can really be sure of that, no matter how healthy a lifestyle you try to live, no matter how fit you seem to be. It's easy when you're young to think that way.

I have to say that if you do get ill, the feeling that you'll be able to get treated at a high standard (NHS has one of the best records for outcomes in the world, and at much lower cost per patient than in the USA) is in itself a great help. I can't imagine the anxiety Id be suffering if I felt insecure about getting treatment when I need it. And if you're flush with money, you can opt for private care here, which might mean a more luxurious room in the hospital and more rapid treatment - private outcomes here are no higher than NHS levels. So I don't really see how anyone looses out. It's not as though if they abolished the NHS tomorrow we'd be getting any tax reductions.

 

If I am a corrupt business (insurance) I can see a big opportunity to pass the blame. Obamacare comes alone and there many people like you convinced it's no good. So I inflate my rates and claim I had no choice it's not my responsibility. And you feel for it years later you still don't see why. The rich get richer and those with nothing blame the man who tried to stop it.

It was not perfect but the right from day one had an unfair bias. Enough so that as long as the black guy's name is not on it they are FAR more willing to accept flaws in Trumpcare. For some reason that is allowed to have years of time to work problems out.

Asking for a system like the NHS means Americans have to take care of each other. That is just not our way we are selfish and believe that helping anyone else is a disservice to them. They are probably lazy and taking advantage of you so why should you be responsible for them?

 

^^^LOL The black guy?

Your implied racism is noted but not accurate.

Obamacare isn't working. You act like acknowledging that is racist.