Trump is good for America.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by scratcho, May 5, 2018.

  1. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    The Proud Boys' libertarian code also includes: advocating for the closure of all prisons; giving everyone a gun; legalizing drugs; ending welfare; closing the borders to immigrants; outlawing censorship; glorifying entrepreneurs; recognizing "the West is the best;" and "shutting down the government."
    Seems to be an anti immigrate idiot. Wonder where she got the idea that Mexicans are bad?
     
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  2. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    . I saw a picture of her, and yes, she's African-American.
    And your point is? Maybe we see why Trump got elected? Yes. For stirring up anti-Mexican immigrant hatred.
     
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  3. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Black? Anti-immigrant? Must be a Black Trump supporter...wouldn't be the first one!
     
  4. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    The Proud Boys are an odd combination of authoritarian and libertarian traits, although we're seeing more of this in the alt right and alt lite. Organized as a "fraternity", the Proud Boys get together periodically to drink, punch each other, beat their chests and proclaim their masculinity. They seem to have sexual insecurity issues with feminism. Their leader “punk libertarian”and "western chauvinist" Gavin McInnes tapped into the same feelings of marginality and resentment of feminists and immigrants that Milo Yiannopoulos, who calls Trump "Daddy", was able to exploit with male gamers. These man-children, who recently emerged from their Mom's basements, find it hard to form steady relationships or hold steady jobs, and blame it all on those evil feminists. They promise to limit indulgence in porn and masturbation in hopes of being able to hook up with real girls instead of relying on their hands for satisfaction. http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/06/proud-boys-and-porn/ This should sound eerily familiar to anyone who's seen the movie "Fight Club"or read Chuck Palahnuick's novel by the same name. Seeking relief from a sense of aimlessness and marginalization, the narrator and his alter ego organize a fighting club to proudly regain their masculinity that turns revolutionary. Students of the Nazi Brown Shirts, led by the homosexual Ernst Röhm may also see similarities. Poor guys helped bring Hitler to power, only to be thrown under the bus by their Fuhrer when they were no longer useful.
     
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  5. NotMyRealName

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    You guys crack me up. Blacks can't vote for Trump. He's racist and out to get them. I learned that from you.

    I'm not sure your party could figure out how to find its way out of a flour sack if we gave you a map a flashlight and directions in 5 languages.

    A white man who doesn't touch a woman, gets charged with a hate crime.

    A black woman who nearly beats a Mexican man to death does not.

    If the white man were black under the same circumstances, he would be practicing free speech. And have CNN covering it for 7 weeks.

    Trump will be re-elected.
     
  6. wilsjane

    wilsjane Nutty Professor HipForums Supporter

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    Trump is currently visiting us in the UK;

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  7. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Selective misperception.Shows your propensity to think in black and white. You didn't learn from anybody here that African-Americans aren't individuals and that exceptions can't be found to any group trends. Last time I looked, Ben Carson was African-American.

    Again, selective misperception. The white man in question confronted a woman in a park and verbally assaulted her for thirty-six minutes while law enforcement stood by and did nothing. After the video went viral, law enforcement tried to patch things uip, belatedly charging him with misdemeanor assault and disorderly conduct charges, and later adding the hate crime charge. Are you defending the guy? The woman who attacked and beat a 92 year old man with a brick was reportedly charged with attempted murder--hardly a slap on the wrist.
     
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  8. Piney

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    Tons of Black Republicans in Oklahoma.
     
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  9. NotMyRealName

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    Nope not defending him at all. I'm glad he is up on charges and hope he pays a stiff price.

    But whatever price he pays, the black woman should pay a much heavier price than he does.

    When they don't you begin to understand why Trump gets elected.

    And you can proclaim it as selective one off instances to try and brush it off. But that is in part why Trump is here. It isn't one off, it isn't selective, and you can proclaim it isn't a problem. And he will be re-elected.

    Another Trump supporter?
    Man accused of taking teen's 'Make America Great Again' hat and throwing soda in his face faces theft charge

    No hate crime charge levied here either. This could easily have made an assault charge.
     
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  10. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Tons? Maybe not, but there are some. J.C. Watts who served several terms in Congress--104th (1995–1997), 105th (1997–1999), 106th (1999–2001), 107th (2001–2003), comes to mind.
     
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  11. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Ordinarily, attempted murder carries a much heavier price than assault and disorderly conduct, even with hate crime enhancement. If Trump is re-elected it will show that the country is full of ignorant bigots who comb the news to find incidents to prove their racist preconceptions. And that will be a sad day for this country.
     
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  12. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    You need to stop and consider the laws of Illinois and California are different. I am not enforcing a national one size fits all law on civil rights. A hate crime law in Colorado is very clear. At the same time, Indiana has no hate crime laws, because Mike Pence & KKK don't want to be bothered. In each case, the local prosecutor will decide what the assailant/criminal will be charged with. I never told you that I support disparate treatment of these two cases. You must have a psychological need to lash out at non-whites because you think we have taken over your country, changed your culture, and planted trees where you have clear cut natural habitat which had been put there by the God of non-whites.
     
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  13. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    In every race there are traitors and yes even we in the black community have ours as well, so yes she’s probably a Trump supporter, a sellout, an Auntie Tomesha – so to speak.

    As for trump being re-elected is that before or after he's impeached - fool
     
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  14. NotMyRealName

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    Much like the misconceptions placed forth by the left and their presentation of the "typical" right. If I listened to the left, the only racist that exist are white right wing voters. All of them.

    They simply call us liars when something doesn't fit. Blacks can't be racist.....but....but....but when they see evidence of it....well they are right wing blacks. Convienient logic when yours doesn't work.

    Convince yourself of your reality all you like, and totally not get why you lost to Trump.

    The only people that don't get it, are you.
     
  15. NotMyRealName

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    If he does get impeached (do you even understand how that has to happen?)
    they will simply support the next Rep who replaces him. And that Rep., or whomever the next one is, will still need votes. The same votes that got Trump elected will be the same ones his replacements will need. The demographics haven't really changed.

    Even you can figure out how that works.
     
  16. Okiefreak

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    "They" is a figment of your imagination and the fake news factories of FOX and the AltRight. Maybe some left wing moron thinks blacks can't be racists. No intelligent person does. I think the reasons Hillary lost to Trump are manifold, including the Russian interference which your President denies. Did you watch your President's shameful performance kissing Putin's ass today? If he wins another term, it will be a victory for racism and Russia.
     
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  17. Okiefreak

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    But will that be with or without Russian help? Do you understand that "the same votes that got Trump in" were a function of a particular situation in time, preceded by the Comey bombshell, the Russian hacking, the fact that Hillary was the competition, and most of all, the fact that the voters didn't have the experience of seeing Trump disgrace the presidential office. Weekly polling of voters shows a pretty consistent pattern: fewer than half favorable, a majority unfavorable. That would continue the pattern in the election, in which your dear leader got millions of fewer votes than Hillary. And after a successful impeachment, don't you think the voters might want a change from the party that gave them that orange asshole?
     
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  18. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    Wow. Calling people who votes for a canidate different from yours traitors.
     
  19. NotMyRealName

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    I for one would be THRILLED to vote for about any other Republican than Trump. If another one is presented. I doubt the Dems have a clue how to defeat them now. You also leave out the logic that more people would vote to keep a Republican in before not voting to allow a Dem in again.

    And you leave out that Comey and the FBI have lost most of the top tier leaders because of this investigation. Trump said they were crooked, and most of them are out of a job. Whether we believe they are or not. And so far the only people in government that seem to admit knowing the Russians were screwing with the elections, was the Obama administration. I don't think that's opinion. It appears to be fact. And so far Mulleur has taken down everyone but the T.

    I was as SHOCKED as the rest of you Trump got elected. But I have come to learn how he did it. I doubt they will abandon the voice he gave them if the next one gives them the same voice.

    Yeah he does some pretty shitty things as a president. But he does some good things too. I hate that the 15% he needed to vote for him is the reason he's there. But much like the Dems, the Republicans will now be pandering to a less desirable group, because they get votes when they do. You should have a pretty good grasp at how that works.

    The same group that voted for Trump in round one, will not vote Dem at all. So if you wish to use the "They won't vote" logic, feel free. But the fire has been lit. And the left are simply fanning the flames and pouring gasoline on it. Those deplorables won't go away just because Trump might.

    You guys might think those deplorables are stupid. But that's your fault. Being quiet doesn't make them stupid. They've just been saving up awhile.
     
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  20. tumbling.dice

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    An additional $21 million taxpayer dollars to be spent on the foolish embassy move to Jerusalem. Yah!!!
     
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