TRUMP IMPEACHED!

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by ZenKarma, Dec 18, 2019.

  1. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    He was specifically talking about the southern border.
     
  2. everything bagel

    everything bagel Banned

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    What about the northern border? Send all those hockey playing poutine eaters back the way they came...

    ...said no white guy against immigration ever
     
  3. Send them back too and I am against illegal immigration.
    Illegal immigration is wrong no matter what race you are.
     
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  4. everything bagel

    everything bagel Banned

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    Then we should all depart. I don't think a single one of us or our ancestors were invited here by the Native Americans
     
  5. It was not a country here until the Europeans made it one. A lot of the land here was fought over by different tribes of Native Americans so it's really not the same.
     
  6. everything bagel

    everything bagel Banned

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    I think the Iroquois Nation would disagree :)
     
  7. The Iroquois were not in control of all what is now the USA. c:
    Tribes would fight over land and the Europeans coming here were no different besides being European plus they also bought land. c:
     
  8. lode

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    There are tons of jobs that need to be filled here. There's tons of space. The only problem with undocumented immigration are the arbitrary limits when we still have empty land and tons of jobs.
     
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  9. They also don't get taxed when they work. I used to live in a very dense undocumented Mexican area and it was pretty messed up how everyone else got taxed and they didn't.
     
  10. everything bagel

    everything bagel Banned

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    We're getting off topic but the issue isn't legal vs illegal, it's how in depth and expensive legal immigration is. You don't just walk through Ellis Island anymore. It's a legnthy and expensive process that benefits those with money. Essentially, we're against illegal immigrants because they're the poor ones. And that's the real issue. It's a class thing. We'll take the brightest and wealthiest you've got, but your huddled masses yearning to be free? That's soooooo 19th century
     
  11. lode

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    They don't get taxed because of a Reagan era rule requiring tax-paying employers to require work visas. The obvious solution is to grant more work visas.
     
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  12. I disagree. I think we have enough poor Americans here who need jobs rather then bringing in other people from other countries.
    This is my opinion though.
     
  13. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    It was

    "country" is a European word for home land I guess. The natives had home lands

    Yeah Europeans fought even more than the locals. So drop the alt-right white superiority shit.

    To the natives land can not be owned it is for all of the tribe so I think you are putting too much white spin on this.
     
  14. lode

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    The poor Americans possibly can't do the jobs that are required here though. Maybe because the location and don't want to move, or simply can't learn the skills. So we should have job training too.

    But it's not really a one or the other thing, that's pretty black and white thinking.
     
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  15. Woah, woah, woah. Settle down there, bub. You're getting a bit too emotional over this.

    Many different tribes fought over different lands in what is now the USA and they all didn't get along and share it. It was not considered a country back then. Does it matter who fought more? They fought for it and do you have proof Europeans fought more for it?

    All you can do is spout alt-right at someone when they bring up something accurate? Chillax my bruh.
     
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  16. lode

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    It's not even strictly a class thing. I'm in tech and it's still really difficult for qualified migrant tech workers to keep working.

    One of my co-workers wife has a masters in machine learning. She would be snatched up by a recruiter in seconds. But because they're both immigrants and he's the one with the work visa, she has to be a house wife.

    Our immigration system is just arbitrary. We don't need walls. We need 21st century rules.
     
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    I just want to add that illegal immigrants who use fake social security numbers do pay income taxes.
    And those that dont pay income taxes are taxed in other ways, like sales tax.
     
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  18. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Try repeating them words down town Pine Ridge.
     
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  19. Okay. c:
     
  20. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    No, you did not live in an undocumented Mexican area.
     
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