Seriously though have a read through it though, this is what they offer up? *puts on objective hat - the response from Trumps lawyers, didnt even bother posting a link to that 109 pages, because thats lol-sy nonsense But what the Dems offer up comes in two parts investigating the Bidens and then trying to make sense of Trumps nutty Deep state theories. And its that second part thats just a mess, and trying to stick to Mueller, and Hillarys email somehow gave him an advantage, and its just like what is this nonsense, its nuts
That is a significant and foundational deceit . Does anyone recall the original and unedited story of how the 2016 DNC info was discovered and delivered to WikiLeaks . I do . Assange denied it was hacked and delivered by a govt agency .
Certainly this is bizarro land.. just curious how much of these drugs do yinz buy off those banners advertise here? holyshit..
Ugh, so we get to the point where we realise the impeachment process IS going to be a circus And now all the crazier HF alternate conspiracy theories start to fly What a surpriiiise
Shrug I said it was a conspiracy theory. At least I'm not one of the hipforum crazies who is dogmatically arguing my conspiracy theory as fact. But it is clear to anyone with eyes that the Republicans are covering for Trump, and they're only going to do so for personal gain or out of fear of personal loss. We can only guess at what that gain or loss could be
No matter where it is in the world, come election day if you think anything other than most people vote based on how fat their wallets will be over the next how ever many years....then thats the crazy part
People tend to be short sighted in that regard though. People thought George Bush was good for the economy until the last year of his term when we went into a major recession Clinton also seemed like a great president in regards to the economy until we started really noticing the results of NAFTA 20 years later People give way too much credit to presidents in the short term without bothering to look at the long term ramifications I dunno what that has to do with the impeachment though
Ok, then Some of the nuttier parts of the Trial memorandum, that I'm sure you all havent bothered reading Page 2, 2nd part of the Introduction "The second investigation concerned a debunked conspiracy theory that Russia did not interfere in the 2016 Presidential election to aid President Trump, but instead that Ukraine interfered in that election to aid President Trump’s opponent, Hillary Clinton.6 These theories were baseless. There is no credible evidence to support the allegation that the former Vice President acted improperly in encouraging Ukraine to remove an incompetent and corrupt prosecutor in 2016.7 And the U.S. Intelligence Community, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, III unanimously determined that Russia, not Ukraine, interfered in the 2016 U.S. Presidential election “in sweeping and systematic fashion” to help President Trump’s campaign.8 In fact, the theory that Ukraine, rather than Russia, interfered in the 2016 election has been advanced by Russia’s intelligence services as part of Russia’s propaganda Although these theories were groundless, President Trump sought a public announcement by Ukraine of investigations into them in order to help his 2020 reelection campaign.10 An announcement of a Ukrainian investigation into one of his key political rivals would be enormously valuable to President Trump in his efforts to win reelection in 2020—just as the FBI’s investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails had helped him in 2016. And an investigation suggesting that President Trump did not benefit from Russian interference in the 2016 election would give him a basis to assert—falsely—that he was the victim, rather than the beneficiary, of foreign meddling in the last election. Ukraine’s announcement of that investigation would bolster the perceived legitimacy of his Presidency and, therefore, his political standing going into the 2020 race."
"There is no credible evidence to support the allegation that the former Vice President acted improperly in encouraging Ukraine to remove an incompetent and corrupt prosecutor in 2016." .....except the video Joe Biden saying he did
"And the U.S. Intelligence Community, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, III unanimously determined that Russia, not Ukraine, interfered in the 2016 U.S. Presidential election “in sweeping and systematic fashion” to help President Trump’s campaign" 12 russians who may or may not exist in a little room in the Kremlin posting ads on facebook is "in sweeping and systematic fashion"
"—just as the FBI’s investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails had helped him in 2016" So even before he was President, the FBI was helping him win the election Dafuq????
"Ukraine’s announcement of that investigation would bolster the perceived legitimacy of his Presidency and, therefore, his political standing going into the 2020 race" Seriously in whos mind? If it had seemed Ukraine decided to start an investigation on their own, would have been a blip on the radar, trump tweeting about it, a week later forgotten
This stuff is obviously not written by lawyers Homework MSWord assignment written by Adam B. Schiff Jerrold Nadler Zoe Lofgren Hakeem S. Jeffries Val Butler Demings Jason Crow Sylvia R. Garcia Maybe on a old Orlando PD laptop whilst listening to Biggie Smalls
Three of them have been to law school, which makes it more curious. Whole thing could have been worded better