TRUMP IMPEACHED!

I'm not ok with violence in the far majority of cases and disagree with your logic here. The military has a purpose because not everybody is like me. It's wise to acknowledge that just because we aren't ok with violence, that doesn't mean we never need it for defence. I would say a significant amount of wars that were made possible because of military forces had little to no (good) purpose. But having a military as a nation/society has. We're not in Utopia.

 

What's more interesting is that you, of all people, think I care about your amateur psychoanalysis. Nothing is as cut and dried as you're attempting to claim. Also, you do realize that impinging on someone's feelings, isn't actual violence, right? Actual violence is a contact event.

 

John Bolton has stated that if he's subpoenaed he is willing to testify in Trump's impeachment hearing in the Senate. Now the Repubs can either let him speak and hope he doesn't tear Trump a new one, or they can vote not to let him testify and raise suspicions even higher. Oh what to do, what to do.

 

Or, they don't have witness testimony in the senate. Their part of the procedure is not the same as the house.

 

Remembering when Beto O'Rourke said that yes, he would advocate for taking away assault weapons.

Of course, he does not mean that he will be personally be collecting the weapons himself. He intends to have public servants / police do the collecting.

Pity the poor public servant who is tasked with servicing notices to collect those AK 47's. Talk about putting our public servants in danger.

The overly large field of candidates in the Democratic Presidential debates can lead to this type of silly statement.

 

If they're in danger for doing such a task than the job of collecting them automatically gets more merit

 

Sounds like Trump doesn't want to listen.

 

I agree sometimes we might still need a military. I'm very peaceful but I see not everyone will be. In Europe it's a last resort. In America it's a daily way of life. There is only a few years in the country's history we were not at war with someone. It's often a shock when people visit America just how ingrained into culture the worship of the military is. People who are into the NRA culture value this. Although they are always planning to fight the government they see the government as faceless. It's nothing but an evil entity. The soldiers themselves are just like them. Probably from a small town with conservative values. I was shocked how many Marines still have the typical small government views when they are employed by big government.

That's the double standard I was talking about. These sort of people like to say that they are peaceful but it is not what being in these worlds teaches you. It''s more like a peace though superior firepower. An example of this is the NRA slogan "a polite society is an armed so city". Meaning what? That everyone has the right to make a personal choice that peace must end. A choice that the time for talking is done. You as an American have the right to kill people who threaten the American way of life of your loved one's safety. This is why the 2nd amendment exists for this sort of American.

An amendment that people threatened to use on Obama and many other left wing figures over the years. That's why it's so odd to me the right wing likes to play the victim now. My whole life anytime a Democrat is president all they do is talk about the revolution. This president is probably going to take their guns and tax them into socialism so the time is now to use your 1st and 2nd amendments while you still have them to fight by any means necessary. When the people who are less likely to own guns protest and maybe sometimes slap a few people around they act like this culture did not exist.

They are just surprised other Americans have the same views as them regarding protecting themselves. I have seen a card carrying NRA member pull a gun on his neighbor over car parking. Or stories like this one

Louisiana man accused of pulling gun on 9-year-old son for drinking last Dr Pepper

This person likely voted Republican if he owns a gun. It would seem violence exists on both sides and probably for the same philosophical reasons.

I think you missed my whole point and have chosen to get sensitive over something that does not matter. None of that was about you personally it's about your silly double standards of violence. What you support is also what you have now spoken against. If you feel that since I don't have a PHD in psychology that is not true it is your problem.

 

I don't really want no friends...
No .

 

Sorry but the democrats remind me of the greens...

 

The democrats are cheeky buggers!

 

"Silly" eh? Gee, what a deep perspective. I don't know what you mean by a double standard. Violence is far too nuanced to be compressed into a coin flip like that, unless one is bipolar or a psychopath. Sure, I'd love a violence-free world, maybe with some unicorns and lots of free pot. But I think humans will need another 100,000 to 500,000 years to get on top of it. Just because I recognize it doesn't mean I'm cheering for it, but there are exceptions.

I was elated to hear that Fr. Goegan was strangled to death in prison, where he was serving a long sentence for raping children, for decades. I was the opposite when I heard about that Mormon family in Mexico that was ambushed by a cartel and suffered many deaths. I think people who throw punches over football games or politics need therapy. By the same token I think people who taunt other people are foolishly tempting fate.

But the actual violence is not words. It's contact. This distinction is being grayed these days, but it's really quite simple. Talk all you want, but when you take a swing at someone, they may turn it right back on you. It's not a mystery.

 

Violence is not the answer. If you can get things done by talking about it rationally there is no need to enter down that path. But those that don't want to listen do head down that path of violence. Look at where it lands them though. In jail accused of doing something wrong.

 

Trump himself supports violence. He encourages negative elements of right wing voters. As a supporter of his you choose to support that too.

 

Flawed logic.

 

Another example of liberal tolerance?

 

And there it is, once again. I'm not owned by a party, that seems to be something you can't fathom. I'll call out anyone who does something stupid regardless of their voting preference or party. I don't carry water for either side.

Lately the democrats are fucking up a lot. I'm not inclined to look the other way. I have no fawning attraction for them.

Really though, I know this is fruitless. You like to compartmentalize people so the world makes sense to you. I know it never will for me.

 

I guess people thought differently because on here you rarely call out the stupid posts of the right leaning members, but almost overly certain left leaning ones. I noticed this too. Of course since the majority on here seems left leaning others will call the right leaning idiot posts out chronically anyways, so that may be the reason you pass on that?