Trump has now killed more Americans than the Vietnam War

Discussion in 'Politics' started by SunLion, Apr 28, 2020.

  1. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed and Confused Staff Member Super Moderator

    No, it was Truman's backing of the French establishment of colonial rule after WWII. In 1950 he was afraid Vietnam would go communist so he sent in Jeeps, planes, and 35 advisors.
    Then Eisenhower continued.
    He thought it was an unwinnable war but sent in $2 billion dollars and 1,00 advisors in five years.
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  2. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed and Confused Staff Member Super Moderator

    Kennedy also sent jet fighters, helicopters, armored personnel carriers, river patrol boats, etc.

    And napalm and agent orange.
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  3. No, you said it's not irrelevant how Trump reacted early on

    NZ PM is the one that acted the earliest, if this is ongoing and acting early just means more lambs to the slaughter later on. Then it doesn't matter what any world leader did early on

    We are still just half way through the first wave of this thing
  4. wilsjane

    wilsjane Members

    The number of corona virus deaths per head of the population in the UK is currently more than double that of the US. While the virus peaked sooner here, the path looks fairly similar.

    All that any government can do is to prevent the virus spreading to a point where their health services are overwhelmed and people who could be saved are dying.

    Annual death rate in the UK in 2018 was 541,000 while that in the US was 2,839,000. Only time will tell how Covid19 will affect these figures.

    We use Flue as a generic term for outbreaks of a mutated virus. Although a particularly nasty mutation, Covid19 is no different.

    If we want to blame anyone, we should blame China. Due to poor sanitation in the poorer areas, along with people eating raw meat and fish that has died from viral infection, they have allowed several deadly mutations to develop over recent decades. Their secrecy in the early stages has also delayed the development of vaccines.
    I personally suspect that Corona mutated to 19 more than a year before it became public. High death-rates involving previous viruses probably followed the same pattern.
  5. Vladimir Illich

    Vladimir Illich Supporters Lifetime Supporter HipForums Supporter

    Yes, and he also got his arse severely kicked in the Bay of Pigs when the CIA tried to invade The People's Republic of Cuba !!!
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  6. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

    By this thread’s logic, Cuomo killed more New Yorkers than the 9-11 terrorists
    Last edited: May 17, 2020
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  7. Tishomingo

    Tishomingo Members

    How has he killed one? Hasn't he used science and good judgment to protect as many as possible, and reopen the economy according to a rational plan? Quite different from Trump's reliance on his big, fat gut!
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  8. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

    He hasn't.
    You missed the point.
  9. Tishomingo

    Tishomingo Members

    I guess so. Trump's negligence has killed people.
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  10. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

    Tough for Trump to address the Covid 19 epidemic when he was fighting impeachment for..................

    What was he being impeached for again?
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  11. Bullzaye

    Bullzaye Members

    He was being impeached, because he had the audacity to run against Hillary...and actually got elected. What nerve!
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  12. Tishomingo

    Tishomingo Members

    He was impeached,for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. The first charge centered on trying to extort co-operation from the head of a foreign power to smear his political opponent, Joe Biden, by threatening to withhold military aid. The second charge had to do with trying to keep everybody and his dog connected with the administration from cooperating with the investigation, and withholding key evidence. So no big deal? And that happened last December, before the WHO reported that a mysterious virus was infecting people in China. Is this the latest Republican excuse for Trump's sorry performance in handling the pandemic.
    He was being impeached because there was plenty of evidence to convince anybody but a partisan Republican that he was guilty as sin?
  13. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed and Confused Staff Member Super Moderator

    Okay, pay attention.

    1. In August 2019 a CIA whistle blower filed a complaint against Trump, as per law.
    Allow me to translate: the allegation is that Trump asked a foreign government to interfere in our election process for his personal gain.
    He or she continued:
    Trump, or his minions, appeared to have covered up the call.
    2. The Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire did not forward it to Congress as required by law instead he asked the DOJ (led by Barr) what to do.
    The DOJ told him not to act on the complaint, in other words disregard the law and cover up the complaint.
    Maguire buried the report.
    3. In mid September the cover up and topic of the complaint was discovered.
    4. Under pressure Trump released a redacted summery of the call, but no transcript.
    In the call Trump asks for a favor, the investigation of Joe Biden by Ukraine, in return for military aid to fight the Russians who had invaded Ukraine. He also claimed Ukraine had interfered with the last presidential election, not Russia.....and he falsely claimed that Ukraine had a DNC server and some Hillary Clinton emails. All fake news, lies, and baloney.
    Pompeo and Barr agreed with this false conspiracy theory.
    5. Putin was elated.
    6. Against the law, Trump tried to find out who the whistle blower was in an effort to discredit him or her.
    7. Trump asks China to investigate Biden.
    8. Trump orders Barr to investigate the investigators. Barr flies around the world trying to get governments to lie. He fails.
    9. On September 24 six House committees begin an investigation into impeachment.
    10. On Dec. 3 they find:
    11. On Dec. 5 impeachment articles begin to be drafted.
    12. On Dec. 10 two articles of impeachment are announced.
    13. On Dec. 18 both articles pass the House.
    14. On Jan. 15, 2020 the Senate receives the articles and the sham trial begins.

    That's it in a nutshell. Hope that helps you.
  14. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment

    You will never get their attention with facts...
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  15. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

    Robert Mueller found 10 incidents of obstruction of justice but William Barr prevented him from pursuing the matter. Obstruction of Justice is a federal crime.
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  16. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member

    To them the definition of a fact is fake news
  17. Bullzaye

    Bullzaye Members

    TDS is such a tragedy.
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  18. Tishomingo

    Tishomingo Members

    Trump is deranged. And that's a tragedy--for all of us!
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  19. Bullzaye

    Bullzaye Members

    And Biden is...?
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  20. SouthPaw

    SouthPaw Members

    At this point I pray Trump never mentions antibiotics or you people will be screaming to outlaw penicillin.

    He took action as soon as this all started to stop travel from China and you called him a racist. He called for meds that are being used all over the world to be tested, and you called for them to be banned. He reorganized three separate National Security directorates into a single directorate called the “Counterproliferation and Biodefense Directorate” and you started screaming lies about him shutting down the Pandemic Response Team. He called for lockdowns and you called him a tyrant. He acknowledged he didn’t have the Constitutional authority to shut down the country, so you started screaming he wasn’t doing anything to help. Governors started locking down their states and were hailed as heroes. Then when they started opening their states back up, the R govs are being called mass murderers while Dem govs that are so doing so are being called heroes trying to help the people of their states.

    Good God you folks must be exhausted.
    Last edited: May 19, 2020
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