Trump has now killed more Americans than the Vietnam War

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by SunLion, Apr 28, 2020.

  1. erofant

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    So VOTE THOSE ASSHOLES OUT !!!!!!!! Are we going to be a country of REAL rules ………… that apply to everyone …………….. and not deceptive ones that favor only a certain few??? The Constitution set up 3 branches of our government - not a monarchy. Moscow Mitch has forsaken the Senate's duty to be a check on a president - and instead has become Trump's ballwashing lap-dog.
     
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    Ill full of gull ...
    adults ??
    Where?
     
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  3. Irminsul

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    when you hear the name Mitch McTurtle

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  4. Irminsul

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    omg and he's a real person too. :sweatsmile:

    And he even kinda looks like a turtle.

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  5. Yea, there's a weird need to try to drive who is at fault (as long as nobody mentions China). Even when Trump did take early actions, they weren't enough, but nobody knew that yet. Instead they went after everything he did while looking through the veil of racism (because it's the only label that never goes away). Even the stuff he did do early enough was derided because of people's feelings (as opposed to facts).

    I just want to know where this perfect leader is that everyone keeps comparing Trump to in an effort to enhance his failures (and convert some of the non-failures, into failures).

    Yes, it's all a stupid, emotional politics game. Revenge for not letting Hillary win. After all, it was supposed to be "her turn" to be president. THAT is how Americans cheer for corruption.
     
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    Lets try this again.. Respiratory infections come and go, they undergo considerable mutation and variations. .. It is part of nature and the cycle of life.. You can go wuhan conspiracy orange man bad if you want, panic all you want, continue to divide, continue to drive yourselves bonkers over something you had absolutely no control over. Continue with the grave stories of dead piling up.
    Let you in on a little secret.. Earth is cruel.. The three deadliest cyclones produced catastrophic loss of life: 300,000 deaths and 138,000 deaths in the Bangladesh cyclones of 1970 and 1991, respectively, and 100,000 deaths in the Chinese typhoon of 1922.. And I didnt even include all those that died of Malaria ^ ..
    Like a pathogen it came and went and life goes on.. Probably read it in a news paper.. The fact everyone has this glowing tablet of information is actually the real viral problem. Its the brainwashing machine- Open it up and get the ORDERS OF THE DAY.. Stay home, wash your hands, stay away from people.. It was that easy to manipulate masses.
    Comparatively side by side Influenza and Corona virus are the same. Both have the same fatality rate, and recovery rate. A vaccine for influenza for the last 40yrs has shown it does very little. Human being are biological carriers. If ya dont want to join the gangbang of life, well thats more pussy for me..
    For such anti establishment persons, you sure like taking orders from your government..
    Stay at home, do as you are told, wash your hands, avoid contact with other human beings and Cats because the too can have corona, put on your virtual reality googles, obey.
    I don't know what part the world your in. But if it is a developed part and your not demanding reopening.. Famine, starvation, poverty, murder, genocide in underdeveloped countries. That blood is on your hands.. Not Orange mans.
     
  7. Asmodean

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    You make quite a big comparison yourself. It's good to compare this situation to others. Wether its ridicilous or immoral to do so can depend on the conclusion derived from the comparison. Your own conclusion (Trump is responsible for the total covid19 death count in your country) is also an exaggeration.

    I think you too can acknowledge that doesn't make the assertion that he's responsible for as many american deaths as there were in the Vietnam war correct.

    No, it's not irrelevant how Trump initially dealed with this just because it will be an ongoing issue. Lol....
     
  8. Irminsul

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    My wife right now: oh God you're on the Turtles Kid loop again. :tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy:

    "how do you like your zombie face paint?"
    "I like Turtles"

    :tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy:
     
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  9. Blaming Trump for virus deaths is a useless political maneuver, not some moral claim to high ground. If anything it's time to investigate everyone who openly and proudly defied the president when this virus began to be recognized for what it is. Consider the recent events that now seem to be "buried" by history (in just a matter of weeks).

    Jan 31: President Trump bans flights from China. Democrats/CNN/MSNBC say "RACIST!! XENOPHOBE!!" - to convince everyone the virus was a non-issue to keep travel with virus hot-spot wide open! So is this the point when we can stop blaming Trump for a virus? It's the first obvious reporting of him doing anything (though it ignores his domestic efforts).

    Feb 5: Senator Schumer and many Democrats say China travel ban is part of Trump’s "war against immigrants", another bullshit lie from the left.

    Feb 9 & 16: NYC health commissioner Osiris Barbo posted a tweet telling people to enjoy the parade in Chinatown, take the subway, visit restaurants, take the bus "there is no reason to miss" those. She said to not change any plans dues to "misinformation" about the corona virus. Mark Levine, chair of NYC health committee, made similar claims "If you are staying away from the parade, you're missing out!". Now look at NY state, the hardest hit state in the country, so far. How many people died from her advice to defy the president? Will we ever know?

    Feb 24: Speaker Nancy Pelosi tells everyone Trump is racist and everyone should go visit Chinatown and celebrate. Clearly she's not a medical specialist of any sort. How many people died from her advice to defy the president? Will we ever know? It's unlikely the leftist media will report on it (unless one of their own gets it).

    Mar 2 &13: NY Mayor Bill deBlasio and his health expert tell NY’ers to use the subway, go to concerts and COVID-19 is not a big deal. "Get out on the town in spite of Coronavirus!" How many people died from his advice to defy the president? Will we ever know?

    Once the virus hit hard and spread, as if on cue these same democrats switch gears to start claiming "Trumps's fault. He responded too slow. He thought it was a hoax. He didn't take it seriously".

    It proves yet again the democrats and leftist media were spreading misinformation helping make sure America got hit by this virus, then they predictably use it against Trump. Democrats have incited mass hysteria, now when more power suddenly becomes available, they act like dictators.

    What if it was all according to plan? And what if it was released 3 months too soon for the desired effect? Wouldn't that be frightening?
     
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  10. Asmodean

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    You probably mean it can be (and is) used like that. But obviously it isnt always only that. It's the truth he's responsible for an uncertain amount. It's fair to point that out. To state he's responsible for the total death count is of course ridicilous. As its a fact a significant amount of the victims would have died when infected regardless.
     
  11. Not unless he made the stuff. That's who is really responsible. Blaming Trump is a distraction from the real culprit.
     
  12. Flagme15

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    Look at you with all that sympathy. btw, it was Johnson, and Nixon who were at fault.
     
  13. Asmodean

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    It's not that simple. The people who supposedly made it would be responsible for that. A country's leader who made the wrong decisions at a point in time where that was unneccesary is (certainly to some extent) responsible for the deaths caused by those decisions. So, it seems the best decisions in your country are made by governors who at times went against the federal decisions. The federal leadership in your country has been lacking because of the president. Citizens have died because of that. The president simply is, at least partially, responsible for that.
     
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  14. 6-eyed shaman

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    Is Obama to be blamed for all the H1N1 deaths too? Or do you just have double standards?
     
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  15. It's useless. What possible use is blaming anything on the leaders when it comes to something like this? It's a disease. We'll see more of them. The only way to establish blame is by second-guessing everyone involved after the fact. Using that as a basis, there are far more people than Trump responsible for the eruption in US cases. Not all of the governors or mayors got on board right away because of their disdain for Trump. It clouded the judgement of New York's mayor and the speaker of the house, two people who actually encouraged the population to do the opposite of what Trump was calling for. They didn't take it seriously because they have an ax to grind with Trump. It's the petty bullshit that has really cost lives.
     
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  16. Asmodean

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    It's not about blame but responsibility indeed. Trump's not the only one responsible for all those deaths, as stated. But he is already responsible for a certain amount solely because he's the leader of the country and his leadership has been lacking. It has lead to unneccesary deaths. How is he not, at least partly, responsible for that.
     
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    CNN ... Fake news ... CNN ... Fake news ... CNN ... Fake News

    Anti President Trump media = Take everything out of context and then correct it some time later.

    What a bunch of fake they are themselves.
     
  18. WhatJustHappened

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    What percentage of the dead in nyc are followers of the particular political party.....

    Interesting twist.....
    If some 70%+ are left? (Is that correct)

    It would be a fair assumption those deaths could be associated with ummm stupid political tactics.
     
  19. erofant

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    The blame with Trump is - he didn't listen to the experts and take action SOON ENOUGH. He downplayed the accuracy of the reports & warnings, and then declared it was only one case "We have it totally under control." "It'll magically disappear." Then - "It's only 15 cases." - "Go on with your lives. Maybe go to work."

    Even after Dr. Fauci and other experts warned how bad it would get, Trump downplayed the spread and the risks. His EVERY WORD is recorded on video and audio tape. EVERY bone-headed response, every snarky comment, every disrespectful and tone-deaf stunt - like his fake sneeze and stiff-armed push away from Dr. Birx on a live broadcast press briefing is there for all the world to see …………….and for his LEMMING supporters & apologists to TRY to defend. Twist & shout LEMMINGS, TWIST & SHOUT.

    VIDEO and AUDIO TAPE.
     
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  20. An arbitrary notion that can be back tracked to the beginning of Trump's sex life.
     
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