Tripping alone for first time in Amsterdam?

Hi Guys,

Me and a couple of friends are going to Amsterdam in a week and I've been really interested in psychedelics for the last year or so and have been looking forward to taking my first dose of anything psychedelic with the magic truffles. However, unfortunately one of my friends is pretty against drugs and is adamant he doesn't want to take them. Although it's not like he has researched any of it and he's still acting like an ill-informed ignorant channeling his inner school teacher opinions with the classic ''drugs are bad''. My other friend also not confident on wanting to try them.

So I came here for some advice.

I'm pretty certain psychedelics are something I'm going to want to use with some sort of regularity (every couple months or so) later in life (I'm 19) but I do want to try them soon.

Anyway, are there any informed websites out there that I can show him so that he can actually make a decision by thinking for himself/any other tips on maybe convincing him?

Failing that, would it be okay to try them by myself? Assuming I do use them with some sort of regularity I do want to try them with others tripping and completely on my own but I'd be apprehensive in this situation because:

1. It'd be my first time and I'd be in a foreign country
2. Not only would I be the only one of us doing them but one of my friends is against them so I'm not sure if I'd be getting bad vibes from him.

Thanks in advance

 

There's a really nice cafe overlooking the water just by central station, the staff there are really relaxed and informative, its lovely there.

Its next to dolce vita pizza restaurant, if I were doing them alone id go there, until you find ur comfort zone

 

Is there any website I can refer him to so he can up about it and actually get the truth/anything I can say?

Also, if it does end up just being me that takes them I'd still be with my friends and thats what worries me. Because one of them is so against drugs in general I'm not sure if I'll be getting bad vibes from him.

 

http://www.amsterdam.info/smartshops/kokopelli/

This is the place we went to, I went with a friend recently hr never tried them before.

We just asked at a lot of smart shops so he can build confidence there.

the staff at this place are very helpful and empathic.

They are knowledgeable about mushrooms etc so you will be in an environment that is relaxing and if needed guidance and reassurance too.

My mate had a most amazing time on his first trip, I was envious because I didn't get much but it was great just watching him.

There are woods near Haarlem too where people go to take them, we were going there but went to vondel park instead.

 

So you don't think being around someone against drugs will effect my experience? I mean I'm really looking forward to them so the idea of a possible bad trip has barely even crossed my mind and I feel I've read enough about LSD/Shrooms etc. as to know roughly what to expect.

 

I would say don't do it, especially in a new country.....with no one supporting you doing it.....but that is just my advice. You will, no doubt, go ahead and do them anyway.

 

Good website to check out, it's about as unbiased a site as there is discussing drugs.

http://www.erowid.org/

It's ok to try them by yourself but I'd recommend a sober sitter for your first time. I think it would be good to trip with someone else for your first time, you can spend some time going into your own minds and worlds and then also connect with each other at other points during the trip.

 

2015 cinema release.

Hostel III
Young male goes to Europe and takes drugs, finds himself held in a torture chamber.

 

Okay, I appreciate your advice. Is there anything I can say to him/website I can show him that may change his opinion. I'm not even trying to force him into talking drugs but he is so ignorant of drugs that I want him to atleast have some sort of informed opinion rather than what he was told when he was 8 years olds. I mean, he seems to think people are junkies purely for wanting to experiment with drugs that in 99% of cases are harmless.

 

I don't know your friend, but he has his opinions and beliefs just like everyone, so why not just respect them, and not try to change him.....as you would want someone to treat you....with respect for your feelings ....

 

This is what's bugging me. He's expecting me to respect his feelings (which at the moment are completely ill-informed) while at the same time thinking I am stupid for wanting to experiment. Respect should work both ways, right?

 

That would be between you and him....and not a third party.....
Yes, respect should go both ways always.

 

All I was asking was a) what could I say/show to him that would make him think about it with an open mind. I wasn't saying ''how can I force my friend into taking a drug''. and b) if he doesn't change his mind from that is it still wise to try?

I'm not sure if you misunderstand but I just wanted to know the best way of approaching things.

 

"how can I force my friend into taking a drug?"

really?

Your words.....

You cannot force anyone into anything....well, maybe you can with blackmail and bribery and threats....but then that bad is on those approaches....isn't it?

Heart will not be in it, I can assure you.,

 

Sorry, I meant to say wasn't. It was a typo.

However, I think prior to that you've been misunderstanding me. I've edited the post if you'd like to reply to what I meant to say.

 

Talk to him....tell him all of this, and if he still says no....let it go....don't keep forcing the issue.

 

Tell him what?

Look, it's not written in the forum rules that if you see a thread you have to give an answer on it. You've obviously completely misunderstood my initial questions yet still tried to make me feel like the bad guy for wanting me to force my friend into taking this drug. (Don't know where you got that assumption from in the initial post)

Look at this way: Imagine it was your first time to try something you had been REALLY looking forward to for 6 months but your ignorant friend put doubt into your mind about trying it around them. You'd be a little bit peeved, right?

It's not him not wanting to try it that's annoying me, it's the fact due to his ignorance and ill-informed opinions he's also ruined it for me.

 

Then find someone else who doesn't ruin it for you.

 

You want to try the drug....go for it.....if your friend objects....c'est la vie.

 

Fuck me, every post you've made in here has been made on assumptions. As I've said numerous times in this thread I was asking:

Is it safe to take if my sober friend his anti-drugs?