Tripin ain't easy

and when you cut them off they still feel like they are there.

 

With the whole brain thing. what im trying to say is i realise that i am a brain with things surrounding it e. eyes mouth ears Fingers'. i just think its very unusual that me being a brain i am aware of myself. Its very confusing but why?

 

oh and btw how do you get a picture for your icon i know what i want mines to be

 

Ah, I see. I think I felt aware I was in my body instead of 'being' my body already before I tripped.

 

it's very...Strange inyet normal. i never noticed any of this until after shrooms.I just feel strange.... i have eyes and toes, plus when i talk isnt it just sounds im making with my 'mouth'... its kinda scary

 

i still dont get it, why you think you are no more than a brain. question...in your opinion does conciousness = brain?

 

Is consciousness an emergent property due to the complexity of our nervous systems or is it an eternal state of our being which merely utilizes our physical bodies and nervous systems to experience and interact with the material world ?

Here's a simple albeit non-scientific test of this idea "am I my brain or am I experiencing by means of my brain?"

Everyone has heard the deal about putting a frog in a pot of water and slowly bringing it to a boil and the frog will die and not jump out because it gradually acclimates to the rising temp and doesn't register that it is rising.

If our consciousness was merely an emergent property of our nervous system than when we took an intoxicating substance would we notice the effects or because our awareness is a product of our nervous system would we much as the frog not notice the change ?

In order for us to notice a change in our consciousness there has to be some means of comparison and someone/thing to make the comparison.
All of us in these forums have experienced drug induced changes in awareness but there always remains some aspect of our consciousness that remains intact enough to make the comparison between our drugged and non-drugged states, and then make the assessment and conclusion that "Dude I'm so high"

I feel that if our consciousness was simply a byproduct of our complex nervous systems then we, much like the frog wouldn't notice a drastic change when under the influence, as all the mechanisms that give rise to consciousness would be effected by the drug and so our whole awareness would be involved in the drugs effects and we would no longer have a baseline for comparison.

Just some of my thoughts on the topic, not saying that's how it is, just throwing it out there for pondering.

 

No it doesn't need better explaining. I was just laughing at your pointless post. Ok the body has liquid and electricity in it, do you have anything to share that we don't already know?

 

No i understand what he is saying sort of. the difference between the rest of "my body" and "my mind" is that unlike the flow of blood through the pumping heart which is done through "our" autonomic nervous system the mind has something more uhh... optional? the heart has no say in what it does but we "having brains" do

 

Ponder This. We Knowingly as brains smoke weed. most of us, not assuming all WANT to "get high". but if we want our minds high. why does "our" body fight to get rid of these chemicals in the bloodstream?

 

so that we can replace them with fresh chemicals.

 

Pondering about that only makes clear to me that we're obviously not only our brain

 

Hmmm..... this is very odd. today i smoked an excessive amount of Weed and pondered. i soon pondered what life outside a human mind would be like... Think we register Color, WE register sound and shape. so what does the earth look like without our brains sensors?

 

Flat, which makes me wonder: did people in the dark ages perceived things outside their body? :biggrin:

 

a hell of alot more complex. our sensors are only able to pick up certain frequencies within the light and sound spectrums.

 

the dark ages are largely a myth...written by the conquorers of that time period. im sure there were many beautiful and concious people living with the earth and each other in harmony until they were slaughtered for heresy.

 

I know, it's just a name for a period. In my language it isn't even called the dark ages.

 

I tell you what is HARD. ANNOYING WOMAN when tripping. It's so fucking mindfucking you have to ask yourself "are you dreaming"???

 

What's hard, annoying a woman or being annoyed by one.

If it's the first, well that comes naturally to most men even without the assistance of drugs. If you are trying to annoy a woman, just be yourself as a man and you most likely will succeed.

If you are being annoyed by a woman, learn to live with it or go become a celibate monk. Thats about the only choice ya got.

Women, Ya can't live with 'em, and ....uh, ummn, ...hmmm,... no, that pretty much says it.

 

^lol.

well archemetis and smith pretty much have this thread on lockdown. but i'll chime in anyway.

i don't really understand why you think we are only a brain. our brains are the processors of information, true, but that does not mean that that is all we are. without our bodies, there would be nothing for our brains to process. everything within our bodies forms a symbiont circle, and could not function without the other parts. this also extends beyond the idea of our physical bodies.

in the first place, you shouldn't be confusing your soul with your physical body. we are spiritual beings, not empty shells drifting along. the source of all that you are, comes from somewhere else -- and it is all powerful. your physical body and physical world are merely reflections of this all-permeating energy which you truly are. the physical world acts as a mechanism by which our spirit and soul can enact itself, by reflecting it's energy onto something. without the physical world, our spirit would have nothing with which to actualise itself. without the spiritual world, our physical world would be empty and meaningless. it forms a symbiont relationship, a perfect harmony. eace:

but you should really read this:

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=338151&f=117

very relative to the topic.