Travel To Another Planet

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by JPN2, May 25, 2018.

  1. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Sure if it were to happen now, but it's something that would occur much later. Hopefully society will be more equitable by then. Hopefully!

    Granted a lot of shit could go down. Maybe the military will commandeer the starships and fill them with their best and brightest men and women. And so the human race will be repopulated by military families, and in a few centuries their descendants will be conquering other planets to add to the interstellar empire.
     
  2. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    actually it wouldn't be the thousands of anyone. the economics of mass migration out of earth or any other planet's gravity well just aren't there. not without a more cost effective way of doing so then chemical rockets. thousands of frozen embrios, maybe.

    once you reach low earth orbit, the cost of going anywhere is considerably less. then the problem you have to look at is transit times vs lifespan.
    of course once you reach a candidate world, then you have the gravity well problem in reverse, of actually landing rather then crashing there.

    and i'm sorry, i don't believe the rest of the universe is there for us to take, any more then the western hemisphere was here for european empires to claim 600 years ago.
    and i wouldn't bet on arriving with superior fire power either.

    but i'd love to travel between worlds that have peaceful relations with each other.
     
  3. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Yes, although for the life of me I can't decide on which planet

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  4. Eric!

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    I have no desire of ever leaving this planet. The thought of space exploration alone makes me uncomfortable. Something goes wrong up there, that's it, you're done. I don't like the thought of being completely assed out.
    Let me know how it works out for y'all that do go, and send me a postcard.
     
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  5. wilsjane

    wilsjane Nutty Professor HipForums Supporter

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    People are always asking me what planet I came from. :yum::yum::yum:
     
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  6. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    It depends on the details. What planet? With what people? And what kind of human activity is already there.
    I would like to explore too, but not on a planet like Mars that has yet to be terraformed. I would like to be one of the first, rather than be a colonist in the latest stage when most things colony-wise are already established.
     
  7. guerillabedlam

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    Why does the notion that Mars has yet to be terraformed bother you in this hypothetical scenario? lol

    Any potential planets that wouldn't have to be terraformed would require much more outlandish scenarios, such as constructing spaceships that possess power, speed and durability that is well beyond anything feasible that could be developed in the near future.
     
  8. soulcompromise

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    Yep. This thread brings up thoughts of Environmental Policy. Hopefully they will implement a national cap and trade system for greenhouse gas emissions so that we don't all float away with the rising tide from global warming. And once the U.S. starts behaving responsibly in the environmental sphere other countries won't be far behind. At least, that has been the pattern so far from what I understand.
     
  9. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I was just going along with the question in the OP : IF the opportunity was there would i go and live on another planet.
    I would only do it if I was not restricted to the interior of an artificial base. So, if the question would have been 'would you leave Earth to go live in a colony somewhere else in our solar system' I would indeed say no. Leave me here then :p

    Mars seems boring for explorers like me :D
     
  10. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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  12. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i would avoid making the assumption, that people evolved on another world, would bear any physical resemblance to the appearance of our own species.

    the other planets in our own solar system seem most likely to be barren of any life more advanced then microbes,
    although i'd swear there's a picture from pluto, of what looks like a giant snail on a dirt road.

    at any rate, if you want a world likely to bare life, of sufficient complexity to be interesting, to have an environment supporting such life, you need to look for planets in "the goldylocks zone" of another solar system then our own. and unfortunately, that's where transit time comes into it. as for very much more then a handful of suns, we're talking about distances in the tens of light years, at minimum. and we don't have anything larger then sub atomic particles, that can travel fast enough to reach further then the closest 20 or so, in any one person's natural lifetime.

    all these are of course technological hurdles, that conceivably might at some future time, be overcome, assuming of course, that humanity as a species, does not bring about its own extinction before we get the chance.

    and it may well be, as it is my incarnation to expect, that there are sapient people, of their own world's evolution, who have passed and accomplished them.
    and that are relatively unlikely to have not destroyed themselves had they been overly warlike.

    given such a world however, we have nothing on ours, that would remotely likely be of any interest to them.
    at least not until we ourselves, outgrow any hatred we might have, as to logic or consideration.
     
  13. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I probably wouldn't live on another planet.
    Every one can leave here and then I'll be fine :)
     
  14. themnax

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    that is of course another thing no one has yet mentioned.

    evolving on any world also involves evolving under that world's conditions.

    those conditions include the composition of its atmosphere.

    which to make a long story short, its not a whole lot of likely, a species evolved on one world,
    would be able to breathe the air, of some other world, on which some other species evolved.

    would still be nice to play galactic tourist. but you would need to take along some sort of breathing apparatus, possibly a supply of our own air, or some way of manufacturing it on the go.
     
  15. Ged

    Ged Tits and Thigh Man.

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    I still say we build underwater cities and cities in the sky. There's some compelling research that population will stabilize at around 11 billion. I'm all for space exploration but it should be for non-military purposes. In fact such exploration could really help to bring the world together. I just don't think it's realistic to imagine we could colonize other planets en masse in the near future. I think we should try and make life sustainable here on Earth at the same time as we go into space.
     
  16. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i absolutely agree. if we don't want to become extinct or come perilously close to it, we're going to have to.

    even if we do make more efficient use of non-land-surface spaces though, there are still three things we need to do to achieve sustainability:

    energy and transportation need to be weaned away from fossil fuels, we're working on it, but at far less then the required pace,

    number three is the big one we've yet to develop popular support for, and that is a drastic reduction in the human birth rate.
     
  17. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I would of course have engineers to help things when they break down, but I would obviously be ruler of the Earth I will be know as Irminsul the Great.

    And you know what else I think too? I think I'd have a small group of legit followers and fangirls. :p
     
  18. Ged

    Ged Tits and Thigh Man.

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    This video requires some effort to follow but it gives a convincing argument to the effect that population could possibly stabilize at around 11 billion:

     
  19. tumbling.dice

    tumbling.dice Visitor

    But what's the humidity? It's not the temperature, it's the humidity.
     
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  20. Tyrsonswood

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    In those temperatures, if there was humidity it would be a solid chunk of ice.
     
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