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The bible, all religious and all civilised societies all discuss what is appropriate behaviour for males and females. Only perverts, shock fetishists and the mentally/physically ill are hell bent on changing that.

The 2 sexes are fundamentally different in terms of biological, biochemical and psychological processes. A male is male, female is female. No form of butchery, brainwashing or pharmaceutical attack will change what you are. From cellular up to macro level.

Its the hallmark and the essence of a civilised society that there are certain norms all normal people adhere to. We dont urinate over graves for example. Altho in some parallel universe, peeing over a grave might be a "great honour".

A ballerina's tutu ISNT a "piece of cloth". It is an object of identity. And in normal cases with GIRLS it is an object of socialisation, of introducing the girl to civilised society. Just like putting flowers in a girls hair etc

Used on a boy it is an object of abuse, brainwashing, cruelty and an illustrator of a depraved parent.

Boys and girls are all explained the fundamentals of our civilisation. Because that is what works, how our bodies were "designed"/evolved and that is what works for both people and society. If a victim of dioxin poisoing/pollutants/child abuse cant accept that, then they need treatment. They should NOT be allowed to abuse other children. The boy cant make rational decisions at that age, so perverts and sickos like his "mother" should not be allowed to make them and brainwash him. And even adults cannot consent to acts of mental illness that harm themselves+ society.

All civilised societies have indency laws. Its not the "eewww" factor as someone said (I think it was you). Its about what is fair on society in general, and particularly kids. Would you be happy with some pervert fucking a dog outside your home every day?

I'm out of this thread. Its gone past ridiculous, into the downright creepy. Hopefully the "mother" is now rotting in jail. (I know some doubt the authenticity, but this sort of shit goes on in England too).

 

^Oh right because everyone is so afraid of being straight.
I can't even begin to tell you about the stigma my girlfriend and I face when we're out in public together... I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

 

^Crass were interesting. Surprised though that anyone is still listening to them.

 

I will go back, rewatch, and try to post again. I apologize if I'm completely off base. I was trying to remember things about it and what stuck out was that gender exercise with the dressing as the opposite sex.

EDIT: Sarcasm detected! He's downplaying it a bit. He doesn't seem to find it shocking himself, but at the same time he's casting a whole lot of negativity in the direction of what they're trying to accomplish by teaching their children this set of values that accepts a more neutral gender boundary. Something's up with the video. It's hard to understand the true motivation of it's creators.

 

It's possible that you're right. I didn't get that far into the video, but I did see the slide! I thought that was a little bit strange.

 

If you become a bit dispirited about the state of modern punk or "political" music, its always good to break out crass

 

Thor - if you ever come back to this thread I would like to pose a question or two for you.

if you truly feel transsexualism (is that a word?) is a result of environmental hazards such as dioxin (which, by the way, would be an interesting thought if you chose to approach it scientifically and less emotionally) then how do you rectify that against your viewpoint that it is also the result of a perverse society. Shouldn't it be one or the other? If I is the result of hormone mimickers in the environment wouldn't that make it strictly a physical ailment that should be approached with the utmost empathy and compassion?

also, you keep mentioning treatment. What kind of treatment exists for what essentially amounts to dioxin poisoning? If it truly is a physical ailment caused by chemicals it would take a physical treatment. Therapy wouldn't work.

please share your thoughts and in the future try to avoid being so emotional over the topic. Boys aren't supposed to feel anything. That's in the Bible.

 

Lol.

 

ftr I feel the pecker shaped slide at the beginning of the show was harmless and absolutely should be onverted to a water slide so the kids actually eject out the end and maybe fly through the air into a vagina pool?

 

Don't touch my posts.

 

The merits or lack thereof of the original video aside, this quote represents what can and should be called liberal fascism.

The tactic of medicalizing cultural/political struggle is by no means new or exclusive to the left.

The theory of drapetomania once posited that the desire of slaves to be free was a mental illness.

During the days of the Soviet Union, capitalism was considered to be a form of mental illness

Homosexuality itself was until relatively recently was considered a form of mental illness.

I think a reasonable definition of disease has to show that it is inherently harmful to the individual afflicted by it. Otherwise, defining conditions as diseases simply disguises an act of political marginalization.

The previous "diseases" that I mentioned could be accepted as diseases largely because of the hegemony of the "non-diseased" population. It seems that gay rights activists may now possess a similar hegemony, and in this case, it is used to consciously, deliberately engaging in medicalization of anti-gay views.

Please, call anti-gay views dumb, wrong, bad, oppressive, etc all you want. But by trying to marginalize opponents by defining them as diseased, one engages in an abuse of power that is far more dangerous to humanity than the "disease" one seeks to cure.

 

It is the opinion of Mr. Nawal Husnoo.

I think it's a very similar thing to calling someone who has an unnatural fear of the color blue, for instance, "sick".

 

You've got a good point there.

I think the 'phobia' label is being used too much on a socio/polical level. 'Islamophobia' for instance is another instance where no actual medical condition exists.

 

Xenophobia is a useful term but yeah, often this fear or lack of understanding of strangers is just that and the disease association with the word phobia shouldn't be taken too literally or focussed upon too heavily.

About the content of the vid saying something about norwegian (or european) people in general: I am not so sure.

 

People can be so literal when they want to go up against poetic license.


How many times have you heard it said that hate is a disease?

That's the same kind of use of the term disease, that I believe Mr. Husnoo is referring to.



If I were going to make a similar statement, I'd use the word condition instead of the word disease.


phobia in MedicineExpand

phobia pho·bi·a (fō'bē-ə)
n.

1. 
   A persistent, abnormal, or irrational fear of aspecific thing or situation that compels one toavoid the feared stimulus.
   
2. 
   A strong fear, dislike, or aversion.
   

The American Heritage® Stedman's Medical Dictionary
Copyright © 2002, 2001, 1995 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company.

 

Gotta love the dictionary. Surely one of the greatest inventions!

 

I'm not so sure either.

If it's saying we all tolerate LGTG there's some truth in that, at least in western Europe. But not to the extent shown in the vid. I'm sure there's still a lot of prejudice and misunderstanding around.

Probably hate should be considered a mental illness. But we are a long way from that.

Probably I was being too literal. And really, it's not the term 'homophobia' I have an issue with.

'Islamophobia' on the other hand is a word that should definitely be scrubbed out of the language. To dislike a belief system from a considered point of view is not the same as irrational hate of LGTG. It's a completely different thing.