Totally Painless Meat Production.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Jimbee68, Dec 1, 2024.

  1. ~Zen~

    ~Zen~ California Tripper Administrator

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    Growing it in a vat would be the REAL answer...

    That way there would be no need for grazing land, feed lots and slaughterhouses.

    Robots could go in and slice off whatever cut you are interested in... or not.
     
  2. Jimbee68

    Jimbee68 Member

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    Vegan food does taste much better, too. But you vegans still haven't explained why food grown in a Petri dish would be unethical. It might still be unhealthy though.
     
  3. Jimbee68

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    Vegans often say online that's wrong to eat a dead animal. But I always tell them, once it's dead it's dead. But they bring up another interesting ethical question with that, eating something dead basically.

    Eating something that died of natural causes is generally called necrophagy. Treating your own kind as source of food, hunting and killing them for that purpose, is called true cannibalism, or cannibalism. True cannibalism is always wrong.

    But eating something, anything, someone else killed might also make you an accessory after the fact. That never should thought of, or punished, as the original crime. Plus I think some people are kind of skeptical of the whole idea of accessory after the fact. Some people are skeptical of the idea of accessory before the fact. I'm kind of skeptical of the idea of sedition, or speech that incites violence. I support those laws, but how could you incite violence? The person either wanted to do it or didn't. Your words should have had nothing to do with it. A lot of interesting ethical questions here.
     
  4. Jimbee68

    Jimbee68 Member

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    On meat production again, some meat producers use CO2 to kill the animals. But CO2 death is very uncomfortable. CO death is usually painless, but consuming meat from animals killed that way is considered unsafe. Inert gas asphyxiation might be painless and safe to eat. Someone should look into that.

    There are also some physical forms of death for animals that are more painless and/or quick.
     
  5. Jimbee68

    Jimbee68 Member

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    But on euthanasia, as I tell people, humans always have the right to know they are about to die. But not animals. They have a right to be happy and pain free, but not to know that.

    But you know, I was remembering my dog Tiffany. when she had to be put to sleep in the Summer of 1992 due to throat cancer. As my parents pulled out of the driveway with her in the backseat, she jumped up to look out the back window excited, because she going for a fun ride. And that scene always made me so sad. But I later thought, that was good. Because she died never knowing.

    When you euthanize your dog, make them think they are doing the thing they love best. And don't take them to the vet, where they will get upset. Take them to their favorite place. Their favorite park or where they play with their dog best friend. And then have the vet gently give them that last shot as you hold them in your arms. They will leave happy, in anticipation of something good and never suspecting a thing.
     
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  6. LesterJester

    LesterJester Mass'Debater

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    Nah, all that sounds like too much work and micromanagement.

    Easy solution? Let those animals be born, raised and live their normal life at their farm like they currently do, stress free and drug free. When it comes time to slaughter, just strap a specially made box over their heads that contain 2 to 4 sticks of Dynamite (depending on the size of the animal) and light er up.

    Boom! The explosion implodes their skulls and brain so fast that there isn't even time for them to register they're dead and there's no functioning brain left to receive any pain from pain receptors. The box is to contain both the explosion and the brain matter & tissue.

    Then open the lid on the top, dump the contents into the compost bin for Monday morning trash pick up, and you're ready for the next one..... Or you could make a soup, but it might taste a bit smokey.
     
  7. Jimbee68

    Jimbee68 Member

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    Thank you LesterJester for your reply.

    But, horses can go to zoos right now, in my opinion (I'm saying it will happen soon). Farm animals I don't know. Every year the president pardons the Thanksgiving turkey. And John Stossel did a piece on it once. It goes to a petting zoo, but it does not do well. Those things are sick. They're not made to live long, being selectively bred that way. Horses are strong and healthy. But even after meat is banned, many of those animals might have to just be put down for their own sake.
     
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  8. princess peedge

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    I believe this is only a few years away from becoming a reality.

    Imagine a world with an over abundance of humanely sourced meat. This could solve world hunger, though it's much more likely it will be corrupted for profit. But if someone perfected it, patented it, and then gave it away, they would literally save the world.
     

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