Topless Women

Gentlemen and Ladies:
In the People's Democratic Republic of Chariseastan, all men AND women are required to be topless at ALL times-failure to comply with this law (one of the few we have, actually) will result in expulsion from the Republic.

Thank You for Your Cooperation

 

Gadzooks! You HAVE my cooperation! I want to apply for political asylum in your country! Send me an application!

 

Now they do, but perhaps in the future that wont be the case.

No its just one example of many how women are oppressed by men overall.

Depends on what things change and how they change. Yeah youre right though, not all change is good but if done right the change for women being able to go topfree could work.

That is because they do not see it on a regular basis and they are indoctrinated from birth that its wrong by their parents and the media. If seeing this stuff became more commonplace and people werent taught to find it discomforting then alot of that uneasyness about it would go away. I simply think the majority should cater to the minority in this case because they are right.

Because we as a society sometimes need to grow and adapt and some people have a hard time doing that on their own and so they need people like us to help them in the right direction.

I would blame alot of it on the media and the general culture we have now full of depictions of hip hop ideals and violence and other unsavory things. They way they depict women in advertisements is demeaning because 90% of women DONT look like that and never will.

If the teachers posed in wholesome nude pictures in a calendar it would send a positive healthy message to children. It would be alot better than them looking through a calendar full of provocative photos of teachers in bikinis in suggestive positions.

The topfreedom movement and the breastfeeding issue go hand in hand. Its not fair to say that an exposed breast turns from being decent to indecent soley depending on weither a baby's mouth is latched to it or not. If topfreedom was more widely accepted then people would be more comfortable with women breastfeeding their children and it would be less of a problem in public.

If the majority of states beleive it is the woman's right to breastfeed in public then they need to make it a unanimous right throughout the whole USA. It should be acceptable everywhere.

They are but allowing one or the other can help the other one become more accepted and its beneficial for them if one or both can be largely accepted by people.

This country should only impose things on people that it absoulutely must impose on them anything else should be the individuals choice or option.

Yes now they would but if topfreedom because mainstream, then guys wouldnt react that way so much because they would see breasts so much that they wouldnt think so much about one pair over another. Its just such an uncommon thing now of course theyre going to be excited when they see that rare opportunity to view a breast.

You never know, we might. I can agree with some of the things you say.

Yeah for people who want to wear that sort of thing around everywhere all of the time.

Depends on the circumstances.

Yes you should, but that is a different matter though.

I could never understand why some people insist on women covering up their bellybuttons.

Most of those decisions on what is acceptable or not acceptable is not clear cut from place to place though and its usually up to the individual discretion of whoever is in charge of that area.

I just dont beleive that what they say isnt acceptable really isnt acceptable. The individuals who run different parts of society impose their individual beleifs on people all of the time.

You wouldnt be forcing your beleifs on anyone anymore than another person forces their beleifs on you when they wear something that reflects their personal beliefs.

 

Is ringing church bells forcing religion on everyone within ear shot??

 

many atheists say yes.

I, however, do not. A bell by itself does not signify religion. You cant ban 'church' bells without banning all bells.

 

Too many folks think that being open about your beliefs is the same as pushing them on others.

Examples:
Gays holding hands in public
Topless women
Muslim women's headwear

Too many folk would say "Don't do that in public. Don't push your beliefs on me!" I've even heard that large families should not be in public together, to spare the feelings of infertile couples.

 

i never say never...

As i said above, this makes a mockery of real problems that face women. I refuse to use the word oppressed in such a light and trivial matter.

could? i have no doubt it could work. The question is whether we want it to work.

And are those who do not see breasts as sexual indoctrinated from birth? Of course they are.

I can't think of one benefit from toplessness. What exactly are we adapting to? global warming?

What? no two people look alike...whats your point? I dont see how you can blame the media for rapes/incest etc.

Chances are the person above was talking about provocative photos. There is tactful way to do nude art, i agree.

I disagree...one depends on the health and survival of a little baby. That makes them very different.

Well states decide that issue, unless a federal law is passed. But i agree..it should be acceptable throughout the US.

You mean the topfreedom movement is piggy backing itself on the breastfeeding movement in hoping to gain acceptability.

who decides what must absolutely be imposed? That's very subjective.

You can condition anyone to anything when done with enough repetition. That doesn't make it good.

its a small price to pay to be assfree...

me either, i quite like belly buttons.

true

Thats true, but would nudism/topfree not be the same? All laws are imposing beliefs on others.

I think most people would draw a distinct between a naked body and a cross that hangs around your neck.

This thread is 2 years old...i do think its time to let the horse die..i'll say this however. I have np with designated areas that are topfree/nude as long as they are marked. People can then decide whether they want to go in or not. I see this is as a fair compromise.

 

except one of the three is a crime in many states. I'll let you guess which one that is.

anyways, i'm done. I see this going nowhere for another 2 years...sorry.

 

If women can get topfreedom legalized then they can do anything. If women cant then what makes you think they have any chance of getting anything else they deserve legalized?

If we want this society to improve and evolve beyond what it is now then eventually its gotta work.

Some are, but many learn to see breasts as non sexual later in life.

We are simply adapting so that women can have more freedoms in this country.

Yeah you can because they make this stuff out to look "cool". They like making money off of it without thinking of all the damage it does to our young people.

Legalizing topfreedom makes ensuring the health and survival of a little baby easier because mothers can breastfeed in public with less risk of people being disturbed by seeing her exposed breast.

They know that if breastfeeding is normalized amongst society then people will be more likely to accept topfreedom and when that happens all women will feel more comfortable being both topfree and feeding their children in public without risk of harassment.

The only reason people are disturbed by seeing breasts is that they see them very rarely and are taught to see them as disgusting or sexual. If people saw breasts more often and they were not taught that they were bad in any way then they would accept them more and wouldnt have any problems with them.

I doubt a whole lot of people want to just expose their ass to the world.

 

And actually, homosexuality (at least the physical act of sexual engagement between males) is illegal in some states. Like Missouri.

 

And south carolina.

 

And Texas - at least sodomy is illegal here.

 

That's what I meant...

 

lol

 

you guys are like three years behind....


"
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Supreme Court Thursday struck down a Texas state law banning private consensual sex between adults of the same sex in a decision gay rights groups hailed as historic.

The 6-3 decision by the court reverses course from a ruling 17 years ago that states could punish homosexuals for what such laws historically called deviant sex.

Legal analysts said the ruling enshrines for the first time a broad constitutional right to sexual privacy, and its impact would reach beyond Texas and 12 other states with similar sodomy laws applied against the gay and lesbian community, and into mainstream America."



http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/26/scotus.sodomy/

 

These same people who go after topfreedom go after homosexuals as well. They just basically want to impose their own personal prejudices on anybody whenever they find someone doing something they dont like that doesnt fit their conservative view of what people should do in society. I really think these people need to be stopped. If they can get away with keeping people from being topless then they can do pretty much everything else too. The rest of the sane people of the community need to stand up and tell these guys that theyre not gonna put up with it.

 

I want the republic to become socialist.

 

Oops!
Well, it's something I am happy to be wrong on!

 

1) You say breasts are deemed sexual by the society, then how can penis and vagina be any different? are they "NOT" deemed by the society as sexual? So they should be covered?

If you say men can keep their imaginations under control, can you? If you see your boyfriend holding arms intimately with some other girl, can you keep your imagination under control and then understand that it may not be what it looks like? Now , is this something society has "NOT" taught you?

Let me give you a chance for an epiphany here, just because society taught you to think in a certain way does not make it wrong or somehow evil or ignorant, when you really think about it, the same society also taught you english.

 

Breasts and penis/vagina while both are deemed sexual to some degree, they need to be treated differently because they are two entirely different issues.

Society has taught her to not jump to conclusions until she has all the facts.

All societies teach people a language, they have to so those people will know how to communicate with the rest of society. Not all societies teach women to cover up thier bodies and teach them to be ashamed if they dont.