Topless in Public

I am certain he was just trying to take into account that other children have parents who might not approve of it. He was likely trying to be respectful to the opinions of others.

I doubt he was trying to shield the eyes of children because he himself felt it was morally wrong.

Of course I am just pretending to know what he meant there. WTF do I know?

 

Could you be any more naive? Pardon me for not gracing everything I say with an explanation. In the future I wont be so careless with my words. Nevertheless, I will respond to your asinine remark.

Firstly, I want to clarify; by children, I mean generally the ages of 5-10. When they start thinking for themselves but are naturally impressionable.

I certainly do not believe that there is anything wrong with nudity, in fact I am a huge advocate as those that know me have already realized. However I believe that there are people out there that would take advantage of an impressionable child who thinks its ok because their mommy and daddy do it. This is plainly evident in some of these forums with the pedophiles posting freely, as they should have the right to do. However they nor anybody can ever expect any any sympathy for their case.

You are free to do whatever you choose obviously, however you simply cannot ignore the reality of this society. Are you so blinded by your own freedom that you would ignore realty even though its the sanity of your own children at stake? I have seen first hand what can happen to a person having been molested as a child. It lives with them forever.

Should other narcissistic, ignorant, and thoughtless individuals such as your self be allowed to do whatever choose around your children? Do you really want strange men and women walking around a children's playground completely nude, letting the children know that its ok? Kids are susceptible to manipulation from adult behavior, I know this for a fact as I have an 8 year old son.

 

i was gonna comment on that as well children who grow up around nudity & are used to seeing breasts all the time dont get harmed in fact theyre harmed by NOT being used to it
just look arpund the net.. look at how many guys there are just begging to see a breast..look at the lengths theyd go to, posing as lesbians, whatever it takes, its the taboo of the breast that causes the harm not the breast itself
i know hundreds of kids who grew up around healthy attitiudes about nudity, they dont go running around in search of breasts, they dont go around disrespecting women, they treat the women they know far far better then the average repressed nipple starved people we're all familiar with, case in point women, last time you had a conversation with a guy at a bar, where were his eyes? on your breasts more often then not i bet right?
if you had that exact same conversation with someone while topless & that guys used to nudity & its no big deal, his eyes would be on your eyes... & hed also be paying closer attention to your worfs without the distraction of trying to develop x ray vission to see through your shirt..lol

 

See my above post. With the exception of the last paragraph which was, (probably unnecissarily) directed at the other poster.

I also have one thing to add...
Its not about what you believe its about what the children believe. The lives of your children should come before any of your own freedoms. If you are in a safe environment where you know everybody and your children can roam comfortably, then by all means feel free! I cant agree with you more in your statement, however you simply cannot ignore the reality of the matter.

 

So let me get this straight.
Lets pretend womens ankles are considered sexual objects. men can bare their ankles, but it is taboo for women to. suddenly theres a rights movement to allow women to bare their ankles, and you are in agreement with this law so long as your children can't see the womens ankles, as the children, exposed to ankles, would be more likely to be sexually molested?
some people have foot fetishes, should we all wear shoes so that your children dont suddenly see us without shoes, and be more susceptible to pedophiles with foot fetishes?
i dont see how the state of a womans breasts, be them bared or hidden affects the safety of your child.

 

Im not even going argue with you, this is clearly way beyond your realm of comprehension.

 

lol surely you jest. You have offered nothing to support your arguement. Beyond my comprehension? I assure you, your reasoning is beyond all comprehension. I'm not the one making false associations based on the very bias you claim to be against. Men being topless in public parks poses no more of a danger to little boys as women being topless in public parks poses a danger to little girls. The fact you can't grasp that, and instead mumble on about your 'save the children' rhetoric when you clearly have no idea what it is you're trying to save the children from, only goes to show your narrow minded thought process.
Want to save your children from pedophiles? Don't leave your 5-10 year old unattended in an area or situation you're not familiar and comfortable with, i garantee it will be far more effective than making women wear shirts in public.

 

Oh yeah, I have this thing for womens feet, bigtime.

 

As has been noted, this isnt really a real kinky issue, so i've moved it here to womens issues where i think its a better fit.

Maggie, as this is your forum, if you'd rather it be moved somewhere else, by all means

 

no, some women who were raped would be afraid of this. I had a lot of creepy guy situations and I was raped. I would NEVER walk around in public topless because I know that there are sick males out there. I'm NOT insecure about my body.

 

yeah, i agree with bumble. Alot of women are insecure about showing their bodies off in public because they know what goes on inside the skulls of men...

but I mean, if it's what you're comfortable with it, then you should be able to go topless. My mom has always said she wished she could go topless (hahahahha, which is funny for a mom to say, but hey! I was raised by hippies..) and it sure would be nice right now with this 100 degree weather.

 

well in that case, we should deff all just go topless. I'm tired to breasts being a big deal..i've never really understood what's so great about them anyway..but maybe that's just cause i see the every day.

 

I made it perfectly clear. You are free to ignore reality and express any ill conceived notion that might manifest itself in that shallow pit you call a brain. Could you possibly be so narcissistic that you would completely disregard and disrespect those around you simply to show your tits in public? If it were universally acceptable say as in an actual nudist colony, then sure it would certainly seem normal to do so, in which case I would agree with you. However, the fact of the matter is, in todays society... IT'S NOT!!!

You are free to prance around naked all you want, however when you get arrested, beat down by some angry parents, or raped by some pervert with an S&M fetish. Whether you were in the wrong or not, dont say I didn't warn you. There is a time and a place for everything and if I saw you walking naked though my child's playground during his lunch hour, I would certainly be inclined to do something about it.

The reality is, as much as you choose to ignore it, that kids in todays society are not used to public nudity. So, try to show some respect for those around you before you go flashing your "private parts" to children who may misintrepret the expression of freedom that you are taking for granted.

Once more, I agree with all of you in saying that if everybody just did it, it would be no big deal. However that is not the case, this is just the way it is and we have to deal with it as such.

 

see exactly the point
at times id be just hanging out &5 oh have 2 dozen breasts there all the time every day & theyde fade into the scenery & have as much power to capture my attention as a leaf blowing by..
but then go a month without seeing a breast & suddenly they have the power to drive u insane tryinto get a peek..lol
the fact is that, the more common nudity is the less dangerouse it becomes
and another interesting note is places where nudity is natural & no big deal, its very very rare to notice arousal
but where nudity is taboo, a girl bends over to pick up a pencil & you can almost hear the boings of every guy in the room suddenly getting aroused

 

hey now, im a pervert with an s&m fetish (ok more d/s and im submissive but nevermind that now) and im not about ot go around raping someone because their topless. especially not a dude for going topless (dangermoose is male in case you didnt notice)

of coures children arent used to public nudity. thats what this whoel discussion is about! how else are they going to get used to it if we keep being all uptight over it though? seriously? i dont get whats wrong with kids seeing tits. imean, they used to be latched onto the suckers for their meals, why can they no longer magically see them after turning 1 or so until theyre 16 again?

 

yes ofcourse we must just allow everythimg thats fucked up to go on being fucked up
sure u can believe in peace but were at war deal with it
yes u can want lower gas prices but theyre going up deal with it
yes nudity being desexualized would solveso many issues but thats not how it is, deal with it


arent these the attitudes that let stagnation set in & keep progression from occurring?

if you dont like something change it
dont just accept it as inevitable

think about utopia the concept everyone agrees that a utopia is a perfect society. right?
but were constantly told, we dont have a utopia ones never existed its all a pipe dream & will never happen... deal with it
but the simple matter is utopia would be so easily atainable... it would happen on its own
if people just stopped dealling with it

your basicaly saying lifes fucked up so let it be fucked up when a simple change would make all the difference

 

one persons utopia is anothers dystopia

 

what Im saying is, that we will NEVER live in a utopian society because it is simply impossible for everyone to agree on everything. Its human nature to disagree, and it is what makes us who we are. Unfortunately there are those on the extreme end that take their personal freedoms for granted and will never agree with anybody. There will ALWAYS be those who seek to take advantage of every situation for their own selfish gains. A utopian society will never exist because human nature will not allow it to.

As much as I agree with everything you are saying, it's simply not realistic. There are no "simple changes" that will fix a human beings desire to deviate from what would be considered moral and/or even sane.

Point is; you cant expect everybody accept your views. And if you have any desire to keep the peace, you should respect that fact.

Just to clarify, I am speaking more in terms of full public nudity and not so much just toplessness. Though I know thats how this topic began in the first place.

 

funny. I got bitched out by a man for wearing a low cut top. It seems some men think if you let it out, or show alittle, or even talk to them, you are just asking for it. To be honest I think women make themselves up more for themselves than for others, but that just might be me.

Too many men think that way, for me to ever go topless. They just get too rowdy. but if it were commonplace maybe they would grow up. Hate to be the sister though that takes the abuse to give women that respect.

 

Everyone should visit a nudist resort. You'll see more T's and A's in a few minutes than you did in an entire lifetime. It's not a big deal anymore when you've already seen so much of it.

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