Topic: Anti-Christians.

quote: How stupid are you? Unlike warrior, I am not a fundementalist, racist piece of shit. And I stand by my statement I said earlier. You come on here, spout off bullshit, people call you on it, and you try to worm your way out. Either support your assertions and statements like an intelligent human being or shut up, becasue frankly no one here cares to hear some uneducated bigot. If by superior you mean dumb, then yes, you are.

I'm basically kicking the shit out of you using only words....i say whatever I want, some things meant only as an obvious joke and you get So riled up about it that you stop behaving like the Christian you think you are.


I'm not trying to "worm my way" out of anything, i think Christianity is a lame religion, it lteaches some worthy morals, but on the whole its effect has been negative. I'm quite educated, way more so than some kid who is essentially brainwashed by a cult, a big cult, but a vult none the less... a group that gets you to confess your sins to a man who is allegedly "closer to god" than you, a cult who has convinced you that a cracker (flour etc.) magically contains the flesh and blood of a man who may or may not have lived at some point in time.


I am no christian, but if you think you are one, then learn to turn the other cheek.

 

quite alot of that is mis guided for a person who is educated....and we dont all believe in transubstantiation....

 

Jozak has told me he believes in that.....what else is misguided?



tran·sub·stan·ti·a·tion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (trnsb-stnsh-shn)
n.

1. Conversion of one substance into another.
2. In many Christian churches, the doctrine holding that the bread and wine of the Eucharist are transformed into the body and blood of Jesus, although their appearances remain the same.

MANY churches believe in it, not all

 

How are you kicking the shit out of me? You are an idiot. Instead of debating and discussing things, you assert the stupidist comments and claim supremacy to those who prove you wrong. You educated....my ass. I am educated, I go to the University of Virginia, have you heard of it? I am just a very religious person. I don't bother people who are anything different. If you were truly educated then you would be able to A) Grasp simple concepts of church history or B) Realize Jesus was a real person. Weather you beleive in his teachings or not, he was a historical figure, who lived in an area called Palestine about 2000 years ago. If you are educated, you have done a piss poor job of showing it.

 

and your arrogance goes directly against your professed religion....if you would like to learn about real Christianty, perhaps you should speak to Bree or someone else who actually takes the tenets to heart.

you "don't bother" with people who aren't religious!!! cas in point right there, a Christian is supposed to love and care about all humans......you are not a Christian, you are the fanatic follower of a cult.



University of Virginia, yea I've heard of it...so what?

Your football team mentality mixed with religion makes a hideous combination. Stop resorting to calling me uneducated and look how easily i am making you lose your composure.

 

That's not true at all. I only get defensive when people are spouting myths about my religion. I could care less what you beleive in dude. Balbus is a good friend of mine, he's atheist, Pointbreak is probably my best friend on this site and he is atheist. KC is another, she is not religious. I know Bree as well, she is an awesome person, but she does not go around saiying she superior to others and bashing other people's religion. I didn't realize you were trying to push by buttons to begin with, I thoguht you really didn't understand, but whatever, this is pointless, I'm not trying to have an online feud.

 

Alright then, I am fine with whatever you believe in...I just fight against spiritual arrogance, which seems common around this forum.

 

-That is simply not true. There is so much proof that the Bible was inspired by God that it takes more faith not to believe in God. There are three types of proof that confirm the Bible is truly inspired:

Prophetic: The Bible predicts future events before they happen. Only God knows the future

Scientifc: Knowledge that was written in the Bible that had not even been discovered until hundreds of years later. Only God would know this knowledge

Archaeologic: Stories that were once thought as false are now considered to be true as archaeologist are finding artifects of these stories.

 

-By not caring about the truth you refuse to seek it.

 

that;s not what he meant at all.

by "it" he means religion...christianity generally i think as the topic was about that.



but the fact is, it is belief ,and only truth to you.


he does not seek "that" truth because that truth is not his to search for or wield.therefore it is simple falacy to him. why then search for fallacy? im sure he does not care for that either as no human on this earth suffers it gladly.




he's not denying truth at all. he's merely adhereing to his own.






i don't know if i picked you up wrong showtime....if i have then i apologise for that. but i assume by it you meant religion.

 

duh, auh. du voist religion ever, on par wit Mohamadenizum, only
more lawless, vukin 4 Jazus. try Jainism, no harm 2 any livin being.

Jizus had short HAIR

 

yeah that's pretty much what i meant, Genesis...

JesusWouldILieToYouByTheEurythmics,

What scientififc facts and future events are you talking about?

And, please, focus on the impo'tant issue... don'cha think chicken strips should only cost $4.99? i mean, am i the only one who would like to be able to afford chicken strips with only a five dollar bill and a couple of quarters in his pocket?

 

"4. I was raised Christian... I know everything it's about..."





You said that you knew everything about Christiany but the fact is most people don't know the proofs of the Bible.

This is the problem with people on this forum and in the rest of the world that reject the Bible, they know nothing of the proofs of the Bible but they will make every attempt to deny that it is true. Of course then when you do tell a person all the proofs and you explain them with great detail that person still has the choice to accept or reject the Bible. In many cases, a person will reject the Bible not because of the lack of proof but because they do not want to be under God's regulations but rather continue their sinful lives. Thats why I say it takes more faith not to believe in the Bible. I tell you what there is a ton of proof that the Bible was inspired by God. See for yourself, look it up online. Go to a search engine and type in "proof of the bible" and a long list of sites will come up. But you have to be willing to seek.

EXAMPLES

-Prophetic

More than 300 Prophecies of Jesus' Life Predicted in the Old Testament and then Fulfilled in the New Testament

-Scientific

• Roundness of the earth (Isaiah 40:22)
• Almost infinite extent of the sidereal universe (Isaiah 55:9)
• Law of conservation of mass and energy (II Peter 3:7)
• Hydrologic cycle (Ecclesiastes 1:7)
• Vast number of stars (Jeremiah 33:22)
• Law of increasing entropy (Psalm 102:25-27)
• Paramount importance of blood in life processes (Leviticus 17:11)
• Atmospheric circulation (Ecclesiastes 1:6)
• Gravitational field (Job 26:7)
• and many others.

 

JesusInTheSkyKeepsOnTurnin',

Prophetic: That's not prophecy... that's called foreshadowing...

Scientific: All of those verses could've been interpretated as saying anything... you read them expecting to find "scientific facts" and therefor that's what you found when you interpretated them...

And speaking of interpretation... since the bible has been rewritten so many friggin' times, what makes you think someone didn't just reword all these verses to include "scientific facts"...?

And why do you keep avoiding the impo'tant issue... what is the appropriate price for chicken strips!? why are you afraid to answer!? what are you hiding!?

 

indeed, lots of poeple fail to remember that the bible has been rewritten, edited, censored, and in many ways is very different to the original scriptures. all bible-beleivers should also read the torah in its entirety as well.


i recon a dollar each (australian dollar) is easily enough. wever got to pay like 4.20 for three.

hehe food that costs 420

why cant god jsut make us some bloody chicken strips then id beleive in him. he should need to earn our faith.

 

hahahah i jsut realised jailmates in here. i hope hes not on our side of the discussion

 

O.k. now I am going to have to go elementary on you...

Foreshadowing: To present an indication or a suggestion of beforehand; presage.

Prophecy: A prediction of the future, made under divine inspiration.



The prophecies of the coming messiah in the old testiment(which I must remind you was written before the new testiment) are so detailed that you can almost learn about Jesus in the OT with out reading the new.


Predicted(OT) Fulfilled(NT)
The Messiah will be a born of a virginIsaiah 7:14Matthew 1:18-25 and Luke 1:26-35
The Messiah will be born in BethlehemMicah 5:2Matthew 2:1 and Luke 2:4-7
The Messiah will enter Jerusalem riding a donkeyZechariah 9:9Matthew 21:1-11
The Messiah will be sold for 30 pieces of silverZechariah 11:12,13Matthew 26:15 with Matthew 27:3-10
The Messiah will be pierced through hands and feetPsalm 22:16Luke 23:33 and 24:36-39;
John 19:18 and 20:19-20,24-27
The Messiah will be raised from the dead (resurrected)Psalm 16:10,11 and 49:15Matthew 28:5-9; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:4-7; John 20:11-16; Acts 1:3 and 2:32
http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/m_prophecies.shtml


And these are only a fraction of the messianic prophecies. But I am sure you already you this as you said in the past. And yet these are not the only prophecies in the Bible. There are prophecies concerning the Jews return to Israel. Which they did in 1948. The exact order they would reclaim the land Judah first(1948) Jerusalem second(1967). That when they returned they would be one nation with one ruler unlike before they were kicked out Israel was split into two nations with two rulers. Also that when the Eastern gate was sealed it shall remain shut until the coming of the Messiah(look at my signiture). Its been 400 years and its still shut. But i am sure you have learned all this when you use to go to church, except I did not learn this stuff through church. I learned it from my own research. Something a person has to be willing to do.


In response to the Bible being changed campbell34 just wrote a good post on that:

"It is the deductive reasoning that if the bible has been changed, how would one know that what he is reading was not part of that change? Who is to say what is right or what is wrong. And who is to determine the extent of those changes. Suggesting the bible has been altered sounds sinister. I believe the bible has been translated into other languages, yet the integrity of the scriptures has remained intact."


The Bible for the most part has the same meaning as it ddi 2000 year ago. We know this because of the dead sea scrolls and various other scrolls that were written thousands of years ago almost say the same thing as our Bible does today.

Jesus loves everyone and has a plan for everyone one who is willing to accept him. But the fact is most people do not want to find him because they do not want to turn away from their sinful lives.

 

You can't write a book, tell people what's gonna happen later in yer book, and pass that off as a prophecy... it's all part of the same book...

"B-b-but, Showtime... The Old Test-uh-mint and the New Test-uh-mint were written at different times... so there's no other explanation then 'The Old Test-uh-mint predicted the future'!"

OR... the dudes who wrote the New Test-uh-mint read the Old Test-uh-mint, saw these "prohecies", and said "let's put these in our books"!

OR... there's the rewritten theory again... somebody might've said "since I'm translated the Bible, I should add a few 'prophecies' in the Old Test-uh-mint' that'll 'come true' in the New Test-uh-mint! That'll make believers out of those ingnorant atheists! Hmmmm, maybe I should also write a prophecy about how much chicken strips should cost... Nah... i can't solve every problem by writing phony prophecies..."

That's all fer now... oh yeah and don't call me a sinner... if I don't believe in yer definition of "sin" than how can i consider my life to be "sinful" and therefore desire my "sinful life" and therefore not want to "turn away from my 'sinful life'"? You've gotta stop thinking that everyone thinks the same as you... I mean you seem to think telling me that "if i don't do a certain thing, i won't go to heaven"... I'm an atheist! WHY do you think that means anything to me!?

buh-bye and peace, man...

 

IT IS A FACT THAT THE OLD TESTMINT WAS WRITTEN BEFORE THE NEW TESTIMENT.

I only told you a few of the prophecies but since you said you "knew everything about Christianity" I figured I didnt have to explain them. Why don't you check out the link in my signiture. How come that gate is still sealed???

Oh yea for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God so I can call you a sinner anytime because you are.... and so AM I and so was the virgin mary and so is the pope and any pastor. Any human that lived or is living has sinned against God and the only way to wash away those sins are to accept Jesus Christ.


I know, most people do not go along with what the Bible says and that is why the Bible says most people will go to hell.

"They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved." (2 thess. 2:10)

 

Dude... yer saying the same things over and over and over and over... it's not making you look that smart...


"Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over." - Frank Zappa


PS: I have checked out yer site... it made me laugh...