to me, the most disgusting thing in the universe is....

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by happykoala, Mar 25, 2006.

  1. RetroGroove_Grrl

    RetroGroove_Grrl I'm a big girl now

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    I agree but, my point is, a child is a child, dress them up. dress them in plain clothes, its still a child. I dont think that those clothes make a child any more or less appealing to a paedophile than a childs normal clothes, its children they're after, not their clothes.
     
  2. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    Yep this is a truly distrubing issue. Kids aren't allowed to be children for very long anymore and are therefore losing their innocence a lot earlier.
    It also makes me sick when you see little kids wearing bikinis and seductive clothing. I once saw 2 little girls (one was about 3 the other 5 or 6) in an arcade playing on those virtual horse racing machines. This wouldn't have been a problem if it wasn't for the fact that they both had tiny mini-skirts, revealing vest tops and knee-high boots on, whilst girating on these horse machines. And then people wonder why there's paedophilia problems...
     
  3. Green

    Green Iconoclastic

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    Its because their skin is revealed. Women don't get raped very often by some random guy in an alley. Women get raped by guys they know. Idiots are attracted to women who wear short skirts. So if your a woman who wears a short skirt your asking for an idiot whos likely to rape you to hit on you.

    Miniskirts are for finding one night stands, not relationships. Child molestors also usually know their victims as well. This store seems like the kind of place a child molestor would go to find victims.

    Its defidantly society's fault, but there is no reason not to shelter a 4 year old. You can't expect a four year old to deal with that stuff. Don't shelter a 14 year old, but please shelter a 4 year old. By taking your child to this store your basically making them grow up, or forcing them to lose their innocence. Makeup and revealing clothes are for mature women.

    The worst thing about that store is it makes the girls narcissistic and vain. I'm not really worried about sexual predators. I'm more worried about the effect the store would have on the girl, especially if that girl is an introvert.

    Also, I would hate to be called a "princess" if I was a girl. We should only use the word "princess" when talking about somebody who got beheaded in the 14th century.

    The girls don't look like little "princesses". They look like little prostitutes.
     
  4. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    I don't dress provocatively so hopefully my child won't have a desire to. I think it is entirely possible to raise a child that is proud and not ashamed of her body and to make her feel beautiful without dressing her all trashy as a child.

    Adults are all examples for children, whether we like it or not, children will want to imulate us. Little girls want to dress skimpy because we have a society that glorifies that kind of style, that glorifies women with skinny bodies and skimpy clothing. I hope to teach my child that while their skin is beautiful, they don't need to show skin to others to be beautiful or respected.

    My parents helped me find worth in myself outside of my physical beauty, I never felt I had to show skin to be liked or valued, and I hope to do the same for my child.
     
  5. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    LOL, wow. Maybe we should start something like this, but instead take the girls out and play in dirt with long skirts on and barefoot?

    I don't really think the kids even KNOW what they're doing at the age of six...it sounds like in that story that the moms are encouraging that behavior and since mom thinks it's cute, the kids want to make their moms' happy and be "cute" for them.

    Of course where do these ideas come from that it's OK to dress our kids in that kind of thing? Media? The parents are certainly to blame for letting and encouraging their kids to dress up like that. Not in a million years would I ever let my kids do that. Of course, I don't wear make up and dress in that sort of clothing...so I doubt my children will want to dress in that sort of thing.

    As a dance instructor, I'm really careful about how I dress my students when they perform on stage and the chreography I give them. No booty shaking here. But damn, if parents see that booty shaking (specifically their mothers...dads are a different story), they think it's darling. I think it's disgusting.

    Some people say, let kids be kids. Well it's a different time then when most of us were growing up. I know stuff like this wasn't around when I was a kid (which was just about two decades ago)...and even if it was...my family certainly wasn't well off enough to buy it.

    When it comes down to it, who buys the clothes? Who takes them to these places to get "made over"? MOM

    And that seems to be the root of the problem.
     
  6. happykoala

    happykoala Member

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    you know, I should start up my own party place like Libby Lu, but with some some significant changes.

    How about instead of makeovers and accessories, little girls(and boys!) get little kits, like an explorers kit, with a compass and a map, or a painters kit, with watercolors and paper, stuff like that. And they can get a hat instead of a headset or tiara or pink hair extensions.

    And instead of dressing up in "trendy," britney spearish clothes, they dress up as pirates, or astronauts or hippies or something.

    And instead of mixing shampoo and makeup into little bottes, they make crayons instead. They put the different colored wax pellets into this machine, and it'll spit out crayons. And they can pick out a coloring book.

    And instead of the employees all calling them princess, they can learn their actual names. That sounds like much more fun to me.
     
  7. happykoala

    happykoala Member

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    and, I can think of a way to protest those stores too! All us grown up ladies can wear lots of prostitutish makeup and tight hiphugger pants and tight, cleavage showing crop tops. And tiaras, can;t forget those. We can all stand in front of the store holding signs that say, "Don't let your little girl look like us!" I bet that'd get a good message across.
     
  8. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    dude, i'd buy your stuff. Pirates rock!
     
  9. Personface

    Personface Tennessee Jed

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    Another thing to add here is not only the little girls dressing like sluts but all the parents who dress their little boys in thuggish clothes. Sagging pants, big diamond earrings, tons of cologne. . .
     
  10. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    That doesn't objectify little boys like dressing girls in next-to-nothing clothing does, though.
     
  11. Green

    Green Iconoclastic

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    I hate when parents put soda in their babies bottles. I've seen it alot too.
     
  12. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    you think that's gross? Try seeing a mother walking her baby down the street in a pushchair, whilst this baby (not older than 2 I'd say) was munching on a big mac. Fucking disgusting, what kind of mother does that make her?
     
  13. cynical_otter

    cynical_otter Bleh!

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    That's waaaay fucking judgemental of you.

    Just because a mom does something you disagree with, you presume she's a horrifying mother?

    Jesus, first off..atleast the kid is eating. It may not be the organic, soy-filled, glop you might consume but it's some sort of food. And the mother is with the child...instead of off doing crack or something like alot of mothers do these days.

    Yes, she's Satan! Damn her back to Hell!

    There are parents who do things I don't agree with. I think breast-feeding when the kid is old enough to lift up your shirt and tell you in eloquent english that it's time to breast-feed....it's time to stop. HOWEVER, I don't call those women bad mothers. My mom worked so much that 70% of my childhood was spent with other people. Does that make her a terrible mother? No.

    How do you know that that Big Mac was not a special treat that you happened to witness on that particular day? How do you know that this wasn't some fun outing as a reward or heck...one of the few days this mom could spend with her kid? When I worked 50 hour weeks, I would often take my kids out for treats...ice cream/the movies/maybe a stop at Wendy's. It was something different then what they experienced during most of the week.

    You see a kid with a burger and automatically, the mother is a pariah to children everywhere.

    Please.
     
  14. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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    I never said it had to be organic or anything like that, but nutritious would be a good start. This child barely looked able to manage solid foods. Why would you want to get them into bad habits at such an early age? The taste for it? I'm sure you must be aware of the shit that gets put into macdonalds products. As a responsible parent, you would surely have concerns as to what you were feeding your children. I know my mother did and so do many of my friends who are parents. Obesity, heart problems etc doesn't happen all by itself in most cases. Infact, there was research done in the UK about children's school meals and it was shocking what they found.
    If your mother spent only 30% of her time with you, what was the point in spawning and helping to overpopulate the world? Quality time, LMFAO.
    I accept that people have a difference of opinions, as should you.

    P.S If you are going to use Satan and Hell as examples, please make sure whomever it is aimed at is at least Christian first.
     
  15. hippie_chick666

    hippie_chick666 Senior Member

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    I knew someone who fed her 2 year old McDonald's (double cheeseburgers) whenever she had custody. Her son was developing an obesity problem. That's what's wrong with feeding children that young unhealthy diet; they are much more likely to develop obesity. Please don't misconstrue this post; I'm not condemning parents who give their children fast food OCCASIONALY, but those who feed it to them in an everday diet. The woman I referred to had her child raised by her sister, and if I remember right, is sitting in jail for eight years on unrelated charges. Not your best mother....

    Back on subject, I really don't see how people can justify a six year old dressing up like Britney Spears. I don't see how any self-respecting woman would. I guess what boggles my mind is that 15-18 year olds aren't allowed to dress like that, so why would a 6 year old be encouraged? Maybe differences in the ages of parents.

    I guess that I have one question for parents of 6 year olds: what are you going to do when your children are 15 years old if they are already allowed to dress promescuiosly?

    Peace and love
     
  16. ihmurria

    ihmurria fini

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    that was unduly harsh. Some mothers are busy, busy working to try and afford shelter and food for their kid. Some moms could spend 90% of their time with their kids, but it doesn't mean that's going to be positive for the child, or a great experience, or quality time.
     
  17. mamaboogie

    mamaboogie anarchist

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    it's not about me choosing what my kids wear. It's about my children being able to choose for themselves what clothes they want to wear. I'm not going to prevent them from wearing something just because I don't like what some people might think about it. The point is to raise my girls to be self-confident and to respect themselves for who they are on the inside. Clothes are just decoration. I don't want to teach my kids that appearances are all that matters in this world (like my sisters-in-law believe), but that it is what is inside that really matters. If my girls want to wear something, anything, that is up to them to decide. What is up to me is to bolster their confidence and respect in themselves so they don't choose to dress a certain way just to impress other people. And that, I think is the whole point of this thread. You all who are against children dressing a certain way, are only against it because you believe they are sending out a certain message, or are trying to impress people in a certain way. That, IMO, is wrong, whether you are dressing in halter tops and short shorts, or in puritanical high collars and long skirts. It's not about the clothes, it's about the reasons for wearing them. The clothes are just clothes. They don't teach children certain values or lessons, that is up to us, the adults in their lives, to teach them regardless of what they want to wear.


    seems funny to me that the most outspoken on this issue have no female children of their own... it's real easy to have all the answers before you have kids. :)
     
  18. sugrmag

    sugrmag Uber Nerd

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    So, if a 15 yo wears a mini skirt, she is dressing like she sleeps around? Let's not be prejudice. When I was in highschool, I loved to wear cute little mini skirts and tank tops-hell, the shirts I wear now can be pretty skimpy- I was not nor am I now "promiscuous".
     
  19. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

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    Children don't always know what is best for themselves. Hell...even now I ask for advice on things from my dad.

    I think that children should make their own decisions, but it's the parents jobs to make sure they don't carry it too far, especially if they are young children.

    Mamaboogie, would you allow your fifteen year old (when your daughter is that old) dress like those girls in that article out in public? In my opinion, it's simply not appropriate.
     
  20. hippychickmommy

    hippychickmommy Sugar and Spice

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    I understand where you're coming from in a way, but from previous threads, I believe that you homeschool, which means that your girls will not be out in public by themselves in those kind of clothes. You will be able to keep them under your watchful eye moreso than parents allowing their children to dress in a revealing fashion and shipping them off to school, where, let's face it, isn't always a safe haven, and yes, unfortunately, they will be judged, or, if wearing something inappropriate, sent home.

    I have three children, two boys, and a girl, I have no problem letting my daughter play dress up, but what I would prefer for her to wear out in public is different from letting her play with makeup and "skimpier" clothing in the home. Sad as it may be, people do judge, and I believe it's up to the parents to provide the right example. Not stifle a child's self expression, but to encourage clothes more suited for their particular age.

    I'm all for girly-girl clothes, I'm a very feminine woman and love to dress up quite a bit, but there is a difference between classy and trashy, and I won't feel guilty in wanting my daughter to dress accordingly as she matures. She can pick her own clothing, as long as it isn't overly inappropriate or vulgar. They're only kids for so long, and I'm not in any rush to push them any faster than it's already going. [​IMG]

     
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