Time Travel

Man, if I went back in time, I'd like go in disguise and save stock in Amazon.com, Google, eBay, Enron(right before the collapse and sell it), Microsoft, Toyota, Honda, General Electric, Hydrogen companies, and leave them in my real name for years down the road.

 

I'm with Willy_Wonka_27 on this suject. I don't believe in 'time' ... It is simply another concept that the human mind uses to help understand the world we live in. Time does not exist in outter space ... it is infinite.

 

that was really confusing

 

does anyone else read dilbert? they talk about mobius strips in there...

 

i figured once when i was toking up that people might already have gone back in time many many times and changed the future. cause they would change history and since they changed it, all your memories change. so you never notice the difference. someone might have changed history yesterday and the all you memories happened yesterday. you get what im saying?

its like everything we are doing might not be real. we mcould be in a room and every 5 minutes we get a false memory planted in our minds. we think its real so we remember this. and if they keep implanting more memories every second we would see this as reality and not notice that it isnt real.

you guys get what im sayin?

 

http://www.lifesci.sussex.ac.uk/home/John_Gribbin/timetrav.htm

 

wormholes

 

I'm sure this has been answered, but a mobius strip is;
1. Start with a long rectangle (ABCD) made of paper.

2. Give the rectangle a half twist.














3. Join the ends so that A is matched with D and B is matched with C.






This curious surface is called a Möbius Strip or Möbius Band, named after August Ferdinand Möbius, a nineteenth century German mathematician and astronomer, who was a pioneer in the field of topology. Möbius, along with his better known contemporaries, Riemann, Lobachevsky and Bolyai, created a non-Euclidean revolution in geometry.

Möbius strips have found a number of surprising applications that exploit a remarkable property they possess: one-sidedness. Joining A to C and B to D (no half twist) would produce a simple belt-shaped loop with two sides and two edges -- impossible to travel from one side to the other without crossing an edge. But, as a result of the half twist, the Möbius Strip has only one side and one edge!

 

i've recently read an article which provides physical evidence of time, as well as a basis of a theory of time travel

i read it like 2 weeks ago, so i will try to remeber most of it

ANYWAYS, it starts with the Particles of some certain atom, and when this atom is suspended within energy, its half life is stretched to over twice what it is without the particle acceleration, so in theory, while the particles of this atom are sped up, time around it is staying the same, while the particles themselves are travelling ahead in time.


btw, this is all from a very well respected Science magaznie that my buddy subscribes to, Scientific america or somthing, i'm sure what i am remembering though isnt totally correct

as for the time travel theory, it all starts with the creation of a worm hole, creating this worm hole to the point where it is nearly a black hole, because while a worm hole may be able to have a destination on the other end, a black whole is so dense that even energy cannot exist within it, therefor the "worm hole" must be stretched to it's furthest point, and the object, person, etc. must then be turned into pure energy to be able to survive the trip through the worm hole, then the hard part is to re-form on the other side, which may be even harder then creating a worm hole, since going from a pure energy state, to solid matter would take an unbeliavble amount of time and energy itself

 

That is some really intense information. It totally makes logical sence ... but the idea that the 'subject' would be transformed into energy and then back into matter seems virtually inpossible! turning energy into physical matter would be like making sand castles out of the air. It just can't be done.

 

i only skimmed over these 3 pages so this may have been said before. But we know that we will never make time travel to the past possible because it would have already happened. Even if it was like (as an example) 2050 going back to 2025. From the year 2050 and on for the rest of existance, you'd think that in some way it'd eventually end up with people going back to our current time or past this exact point back to the 20th century and further?

 

how can you say that though?

if that past exsists on a seperate time plane then the present and future, then travelling to the past would not effect the future as much as u would think

 

no but when your traveling back to the past, thats the "time plane" you would be on. And in the future itd end up as a part of our history, being like "people came back from the future yesterday" that would be a change in the future, we wouldve already acknowledged that such an event has happened with time travel into the past being possible in our future time.

 

its all the same time plane, just different periods of time.

 

how would u know?

i've heard numerous theories that different time planes exsist, and even though they are still theories they come from people who have devoted their lives to the study of it, so i'll put their word over yours.

 

whoa dude thats so intense

 

go for it. Im just saying what seems more logical in my opinion.

and if you ever come across someone whos like "oh its just a theory" the best thing to say to them back is, "Evolution is a theory... Kind of like gravity".

 

please elaborate how gravity is a "theory"

 

theory:

Noun
Inflected forms: pl.the·o·ries 1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena. 2. The branch of a science or art consisting of its explanatory statements, accepted principles, and methods of analysis, as opposed to practice: a fine musician who had never studied theory. 3. A set of theorems that constitute a systematic view of a branch of mathematics. 4. Abstract reasoning; speculation: a decision based on experience rather than theory. 5. A belief or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment: staked out the house on the theory that criminals usually return to the scene of the crime. 6. An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.
Etymology



Plate tectonics? That would be a theory aswell. Theories can be proven to be true. The contidental drift does exist and can be proven.

For another example: I and every other human on this planet need food and water to survive. In theory, humans need food and water to survive... if this were proven with specific evidence to not be true, it wouldnt be a theory.

 

Ok, guess I'll enlighten you guys. Of COURSE time travel is possible. The problem with trying to change the past, is our futures are already pre-determined. When you change something in the past, it creates an alternate future. The time traveler goes back to his time, and Voila! what he wanted different has changed. This is Reality #2. Reality #1, continues on as if nothing was changed. This is the reason for deja vu. Deja vu is when your present self mirrors almost the exact situation your -pastpresentfutureother- self is doing. Think parallel dimensions. So basically, if you went to the past and smothered your childhood tormentor in his sleep, he would continue on as if nothing had happened in Reality #1. And your other self would be there just as emotionally scarred as you are now. But, the YOU that is reading this right now would be happy as a pig in shit because that never happened. So there are infinite numbers of timelines, where each reality is as different as night and day. We, however, are stuck in this basic root timeline where most things suck. BTW, Einstein already proved time travel into the future exists. Part of that whole "theory of relativity" thing. High speeds, the curvature of the earth, and some math. Too stoned to go into the details, lol.