Time Travel

Discussion in 'The Future' started by piff~, Feb 7, 2008.

  1. Nikalaus

    Nikalaus Member

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    Time travel?

    No, wrong question.

    You can't debate time travel before you define...

    What is time?

    Yes yes, scientific minds have told us that time is constant, but that's odd, when I'm doing a chore I enjoy an hour feels like 2 minutes, and when I dread a chore 2 minutes feels like an hour. Do we not all agree? Then why? Why does consciousness permit such illusions? Illusion or reality?

    Time is fluid.

    Or is it?

    What's the question again?

    Oh my look at the time.

    Gotta go.
     
  2. lostminty

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    they didn't say time is constant...what they did was make a system of conformity, which worked really well..think about it next time you're waiting impatiently for a text message
     
  3. Wasteland

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    There are many questions regarding time travel, I will address the questions with my opinions.

    Is it possible?: While science has given us theories that it is impossible, you have to take in mind that they are just theories. Theories are not fact. We have no idea what is or isn't possible. Some people believe that time travels in a straight line, and once a point in time has passed, it no longer exists, while some argue that time actually runs in a loop, and with the right energy, craft, circumstances, and timing, you could theoretically leap from one place on the loop into another. But again, these are theories.

    What would it take to travel through time?: For starters, you would need a massive amount of energy to even consider acheiving it. Something that could travel at speeds faster than the speed of light, but durable enough to take the strain of traveling at such a speed without a speck of dusk tearing through the craft and killing everyone. Also, you would need a road. Something for the machine to follow to it's destination. Some kind of time vortex. You would need neutral ground: something, like a craft engineered with the equipment to allow the inside of the craft to stay within it's own time barrier, but allow time to pass around it. That's just a few things.

    Implications?: Of course, you must think about paradoxes. Anyone ever heard of the grandfather paradox? It is the idea that if you were to go back in time and shoot your grandfather before he fathered your father, than you would have never existed to go back and shoot your grandfather, thus allowing him to live to father your father, so you could be born to go back in time to shoot your grandfather. It would be difficult, if not impossible to stop such a paradox. Also, there's the part about changing history. What if Lincoln had lived? What if Hitler had never been born? It would create a domino effect. Hitler was never born. WWII never happened. One of the people that in timeline A would have died in a death camp creates a plague in timeline B, destroying or at least altering the timeline. Or the idea of going back and stopping an explosion that killed your father when you were young. The explosion still happens, but where your father would have died in timeline A, he lives in timeline B, but someone else dies in his place. That person who would have lived originally but dies doesn't have a future offspring, who in timeline A cured AIDS. Time and history are two very tricky things.

    Maybe time travel is possible. But I feel like I need to address one more thing.

    Why haven't people from the future attempted to make contact with us?:
    You have to remember that future humans, bar maybe a few traits, are going to look just like us. Second, even in the future, I seriously doubt that if a time machine was invented, they wouldn't send back Bubba from the 7-11 parking lot. They would send back scientists and professionals, people who thouroughly know the implications of time travel. Third, what do you think would happen if tomorrow, a time machine landed in the middle of Times Square? Panic, fear of extraterrestrial invasion, etc. I just don't think that people of the future would be this stupid. And if they were, then I really doubt they could built a time machine.
     
  4. Justin_Hale

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    I've been reading some stuff about this. They say that they have the tech now, but lack the power necessary to use it. And as mentioned before here, we may only be able to go back in time to the point which the machine was first used.

    And going backwards in time (before the machine was invented) would probably send the traveler into a parallel universe whose history would begin to diverge from the traveler's original history after the moment the traveler arrived in the past.

    Blah blah blah etc.

    Check out this photo taken in 1941. Does anyone in the photo look out of place? I shit a brick when I saw it. And a girl in the photo seems to be looking at his camera curiously, or at his clothing maybe. And i'm not talking about the sunglasses.

    It looks like something is going on in the photo that the people are very inerested in. Maybe an historical event unfolding? This photo is in a Canadian museum. Any thoughts?

    [​IMG]
     
  5. themnax

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    if there are timelords on gallifry, i'm sure they're "shitting bricks" too.
    although more then one explanation occurs to me. not all of them involving time travel.
     
  6. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    You’d think someone traveling through time would have enough sense to dress appropriately for the period :confused:

    I’d love to know if he’s carrying a digital camera because if he is there’s the definitive proof we need :eek:


    Hotwater
     
  7. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    I totally think Time Travel is possible, and i hope to encounter it at some point in my "life".
     
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    how did I get here..
     
  9. tikoo

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    how might physics address psychic perception of past or future ?? it's common enough for people to occasionally experience this and mention it . there's got to be some sort of vibration - like an aspect of light - that can be humanly touched .

    psy is an aspect of wild nature . maybe you got to go sleep and dream with bears in the forest to figure it out . perhaps there's got to be alot more peace on earth before humans are free to discover time travel .

    hey ! a really stoned drum circle might hit the right vibe - music plays with time .

    and hasn't the past always been a tourist destination ? i spose the ufo's
    to be robotic film-makers existing in neutral time/space .
     
  10. bubbler211

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    well i grew up listening to war stories about WW2 and this Philly experiment.
    I have talked to men who had a pretty good knowledge of what was going on at the time. About the only thing I have found out so far is this experiment might have generated some talk among people,the one i am talking about is called a look at trying to keep boats from being magnetic.
    I would think at this point and time America was very busy fighting a war on 2 fronts. Anything that could have cut the loses we were racking up at the time,anything could be tried and i am sure was. There was some work being done by the british to build a ship out of ice,i dont recall al the parts of the story at the moment but it was pretty outlandish premis. Maybe the guys that were working on this philly project were legit maybe this really did happen but i honestly do not think that this experiment moved ships back and forth across the states. maybe they did discover something in this program. it makes a good story to sit around and discuss on a cold winter night,but if this really did happen dont u think the evidence would show up by now? But hey the gov did keep the stealth bomber secret for umm 10 years?
     
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  12. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Great video and fodder for the imagination [​IMG]




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChjyCR8V2Bg"]YouTube- The True Story of the Philadelphia Experiment 1




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  13. Wasteland

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    That's the time meddler...he used to like to go back in time, change something, and watch the results for his own amusement...pay him no mind, I don't think he messed anything up at that time...
     
  14. BTS

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    im a time traveller
     
  15. Justin_Hale

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    I know, i've seen you before. :D
     
  16. themnax

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    there are a lot of things we don't know. they're just usually not the things we think they are.
    most times you see a big deal being made out of something, chances are you're being led to bark up the wrong tree about it.
    and of course, war stories to grow in spectacularity in the telling. that is, after all, why they're called war stories.

    i can believe, given the context, someone charged up a metal hull ship with high voltage to see what would happen, and of course as long as one isn't bridging a gap between dissimilar voltages, no current flows, and essentially nothing happens.

    i do know about high voltage stingers trolled behind some navel vessels to safely set off the kind of low yeald mines that once existed at what was then a safe distance. just as a guess, that's probably pretty much all this really amounted to.

    the rest of it, well, people do like to tell stories. to relieve the combination of fear and boredom, which are of course the real realities of war. and of course to impress those they wish to get laid by.
     
  17. MisterMudz

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    I know time travel won't be developed in my life time, because if it were i'd be smoking a blunt with myself right now.

    Once in a dream I put a banana in a Styrofoam cup, on top of a ziploc baggy full of water,
    then traveled through time.
     
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    Ah, that old "there are no railway lines within sight of me, therefore trains will never be invented" argument.

    Trains can only go where railway lines are built, and time travel can only happen where (& when, obviously) time-machines are built
     
  19. Nikalaus

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    ... okay.

    Me and my father had this chat quite some time ago.

    Here is our conclusion.

    Time like the rest of the universe, is not linear. Time is cyclical.

    Think...

    Ebb and Flow, Sun and Moon, Wax and Wane, Hot and Cold, To and Fro.

    Therefor:

    Since history keeps repeating itself over and over in what our minds perceive as the "present" tense. And, time itself has to fit in the universal mold of cycles,

    Therefor:

    Our conclusion is that time, although our minds are not equipped to perceive it, has to collapse on itself. There is no end and no beginning.

    Therefor:

    We are all perpetually time travelling by default. I.E.: Our present tense actions maybe changing things that have already happened in history which could also modify future outcomes.

    This of course is philosophical framework only.
    My father and I are by no means Quantum Freaking Physicists.
     
  20. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    So as we create more and more alternate timelines it’s possible for time itself to end (explode or implode) long before the universe expands to its outer limit or the proton decays :eek:


    Hotwater
     

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