Thread devoted to kudzu!

my arrogance?? because you dont like that my opinion is different than yours,because what i have seen with my own eyes is different than what you read??
thats arrogance??lol

whatever man.. you should come on down and spend some time with us, i think you will see my words in a whole new light..

doors open any time..

 

This is getting off topic, hardcore. Just drop the point of who has more experience. I understand that age allows for more experience, it does NOT qualify a stance in ANY argument automatically though.

I am providing information, neutral information and sources that back me up.

I may not have the experience that either of you have, but it seems as though I have studied it a lot more extensively than just in the field...you can go on about your experiences but ultimately it boils down to fact - which I have a lot of

 

I thank you for the invitation, and I would love to. I love the nature and I love being in it.

You are focusing on very small points of the issue however...please read my above response...

 

Fact.

 

read my other response as well

 

no you have words from others that you choose to take as fact.

many many people believe the bible and the koran to be fact,and believe there is evidence to prove it as fact.that in no way makes either of them fact.

 

Purp, I have no argument further with anything you say on this subject.

Go visit hhb seems he invited you... come back and tell us about how you feel about the subject afterwords.

HHB... best of luck man... lol

 

I think I thoroughly made my point here. From here what you two choose to believe is up to you, I suppose.

I have provided you with many links on the information of many different invasive species and the means of getting rid of them.

Whether you choose to look it up is your prerogative.

billy: I am assuming that because of your awareness for nature, that you will try to educate yourself on this topic (which means looking at both sides). I myself have been reading the articles I have been posting all along, as well as ones that seem to support the use of Kudzu that is beneficial - I have yet to come across an article that says leaving Kudzu alone in the wild is wonderful for the environment.

In your experiences it is that way - in my experiences with OTHER invasive species it is the complete opposite. I have shared my experiences AND facts. Please share the facts that support your experiences. And please, do not mention age again...

 

oh im done here as well unless folks wanna get back on the original topic which i believe was more or less the good aspects of kudzu..

 

Okay okay okay, maybe I shouldn't say fact.

I will say this: these people that have written all I have been sharing are more qualified than I am, and they are more qualified than you are - unless of course I am ignoring that you have a degree in Environmental Sciences, or a similar field.

I don't appreciate the seeming attitude of yours...that I am some idiot child. I understand the drawbacks of the internet as well as I understand the advantages of being able to blindly spew words...

Ending a good debate is admitting defeat

 

lol, you really dont want my opinion on science much less environmental science degrees as credibility..lol

 

What exactly is your degree?

 

well then...i guess i didn't pack my guns to comeback to a "burn everything" type of green movement...

people that have environmental science degrees and are the same age as you will probably have an insane amount of experience, more than you (as this seems to be the only way to prove a point with you) as well as in depth lab research, historical research, and a focused career on the subject. These people are paid to do this as a living...

If that isn't credible, then I don't know where to go and I suppose you must be on a much much much higher level of intelligence than I thought originally.

 

purp, you have made it clear that direct experience in nature means little to you in comparison to books written about the subject.

The part that really baffles me about this is that the people who wrote those books got their ideas and thoughts from going and spending time studying in the wild. They went, they looked, they saw, they left.... That last part is the important part.

HHB for one lives where these people go to study, in nature. Yet you have made it quite clear, that being in nature means nothing in comparison to it being written about nature.

You say you would love to go visit HHB, why? What is that experience worth in comparison to you reading another book or paper written by someone who visits the wild to study?

 

Yes, but, ChronicTom, hippiehillbilly is a stubborn c*nt.

 

WOA WOA WOA!!! I absolutely NEVER said that experience is not valid - I said that we both have our experiences, I am just supporting mine with more people's (and -in society's eyes at least- more credible people than you and i) experiences than just mine.

Don't make assumptions - the coincidence that ass is the first word in assumption isn't the only similarity between the two - we all have one and they stink.

Why? Well...aside from my initial ASSUMPTION (just kidding) that HHB might be a cool guy, I love nature. I love being in nature, I love reading about it, I love talking about it, I love it...it's great!! I'm sure I could think of more reasons, but I mean, why not? If I were to ever take him up on the offer I'd of course make sure he isn't going to try to kill me once I do get there of course - that'd be a reason not to go.

 

I don't make assumptions purp.... I quote people...

 

It was the irony and my attempt at cynical humor - he was disregarding my points on experience due to my age.

Not only do I love nature, I love speech crafting as well...

 

What experience of yours was he disregarding? Perhaps he missed where you pointed it out, as I seem to have. All I saw was you quoting other peoples experience.

 

:toetap05: seriously?

RECAP FOR TOM AND ANYONE NEW TO THE THREAD

I have a lot (okay, not as much as you HHB lol) of experience with invasive species in my own area, as kudzu does not grow here. The ARGUMENT was whether or not it is good or even necessary to remove the Kudzu. I was posting links to research about Kudzu and whatnot.

I was rebutted with something along the lines of how he has more experience with Kudzu, specifically, than I do at all, due simply because of his age (which I agree, it's obvious). I came back saying that I am using others' experiences, often times more "credible" experiences than any of ours that will join the conversation. And now we are here pretty much.

Since you are the master quoter, I'll leave you to go search through it all