Thought without limit

You sure seem to feel you need a lot of proclaiming to do that it is not you who needs such things

 

Your aversion to the truth is affecting your coherence.

 

What convoluted override schemes have I put forward?
What illogical beliefs do I maintain and how are Okie and myself not persons like yourself?

Could we say your logic is perverted by stereotype and prejudice? Seriously, you might notice I am a tireless speaker on philosophical content.

 

Sterile.

 

Better than belief may be statistical probability.

That's all science has. To me that seems more reliable than so called faith, which is often only a kind of contract to agree that this or that scripture contains all the answers we need.

Maybe though given the number of human cultures that have existed in the past that have entertained some concept of a 'supernatural' element in the universe, we might say there's a certain probability that it might be the case.

I hope that in the future science will become more interested in the whole arena of consciousness. It needs to happen if we are to go beyond our present culture with it's limpet like clinging to the 'certainties' provided by religion in the past, or the "sterile" answers offered by materialism - a hangover from the 19th century.

 

how does human satisfaction being ephemeral make super-humanism a vain construct? i don't quite fallow, or am i misunderstanding some part of that?

 

this may depend somewhat on what you mean by "liberal culture".

 

It doesn't. Super human is a vain construct on it's own. A satisfied human being ephemeral is an obvious and unequivocal observation. Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't.

 

ok. got it. at least the second part anyway. and of course nothing can be superior to itself. but isn't it a collective vanity of humanity to imagine nothing can be in some way an improvement upon itself?

 

So what? We are talking about your saying infinity is not physical.

So you're now admitting that non-locality = zero? So how was your 'no' a yes on both occasions? What's the point in trying to add zero to anything? What 'process' is being related here? lol

If reality were platypus traffic you could give up your passion for 'interpretation' and retire! :-D

Your misperception. lol

I already have and it doesn't make sense. If you'd said reality is non-remote, it would've. Your saying it's everything and nothing is just blather from one who thinks making up ones mind is a bother, one who thinks it is already made up! Change it thedope! :-D

No, vain is wanting substance, not lacking, unless you're saying vanity doesn't exist? lol

It is not, you are right, but who is this dionysian you refer to? :-D

 

themnax:

The 'last' or 'ultimate' man. thedopes 'satisfied' human. Stepford sterility. For thedope, conceiving the superhuman gets in the way of his god, that he doesn't want to be a person.
(See 'Does Gods Exist" thread. ) :-D

 

I imagine one day ,, you'll stop picking on each other and coexist..

 

It will not happen, unfortunately, because it is not within human nature to co-exist with those whom we disagree on matters of what we consider important.

Besides, referring to a fallacious argument of coexistence is much the same as stating Oh, the corrupt Catholic institution allows priests to molest children and allows the priests to get away with it? Well, I think we should just co-exist with the Church and the decisions it makes that affects our lives.

 

Stop picking on us orison!

 

There is good for us and we must have it. This idea is not vain but in fact essential to our efforts. Physical good appears to us as wellness or ease of being. Having and being are the same. I don't think it is vain to want to feel good. I think it vain to measure anything in exceptional or extraordinary terms or that some being is more worthy than another for the simple fact that there exists no standards for comparison. In all honesty what is the same is the same and what is different is different and not the same. What is helpful in one moment may not be in the next. It would be vain to think your mind can't be changed which is what you mean by room for improvement.

Pride and humility/embarrassment, are the same vanity. It is vain to think you are superior to any space and also vain to think you are inferior to any space and it is vain to think you can usurp the power or will of god, (metaphorically,) and also vain to think that any millisecond in space and time does not have the full weight of reality behind it or that some future or distant clime holds a better promise, just like the good old days.

Some hearths appear warmer than others because the stoker's have tended their metabolic fire with greater diligence but the fire in every hearth is the same. We are warm blooded and are attracted by the warm and brightly burning fire but only that we may also be warm not that we pay homage to it.
Fuck the hero, the meek populate the land and where human citadels crumble in time natures architecture rebuilds. Those who assail the heroic can be vanquished, those who get up and lay down for themselves cannot.

 

thedope:

lol

Your first paragraph I almost read well! The co-existence must be kicking in?! :-D

"the simple fact that there exists no standards for comparison."

LOL No...

Everyone can be 'vanquished', tex. Not everyone can get up and lay down for themselves. So not all hearths are lit in your homage after all!? Don't worry! There's time! lol

 

We find those most agreeable whom we agree with doofus.

"the simple fact that there exists no standards for comparison."

A contradiction of your saying life is infinite.

Of anything you can say for yourself.

 

Aversion against which truth do you mean exactly? I have the feeling you project certain things onto me because I am not going along with your theist bashing.

 

You'll never see it.

You and a hand full of others here are too busy relentlessly defending irrational ignorance to ever see the truth.

 

The infinite cannot be measured in terms of limit in space or duration in time.
We can say here are five pounds of rocks a definite limit in space but it may not always be so or it is indefinitely so.

No I say what is not real does not exist.
It is honesty at stake Dejavu. What is your point in insisting that zero has value in saying god exists but not for you in the does god exist thread? How does existence equal zero?

I was in Oso. Not an interpretation, an inventory.

Of anything you can say for yourself, it is a common perception.

Vain is thinking you are the sole arbitrator of meaning, let's see,
Vain;

1. having or showing an excessively high opinion of one's appearance, abilities, or worth.


2.
producing no result; useless.

From latin vanus, empty, without substance, through old french to middle english, vain, devoid of real worth.

The satisfied human being is ephemeral and harm has no face.