Thought broadcasting

It would be impossible to prove this. What matter is that your life is getting better and better, and not worse and worse.

Its that whole verification, in relation to the how experiences unfold and the interpretations of that experience.

 

are you saying the proof is in the pudding? Well I don't think you are, at least not in every way.


perhaps one could measure stress levels and then run games of chance, looking for patterns

 

Probably true, I'm in the realm of speculation now - though what I'm saying follows somewhat from something my spirit guide said to me telepathically once. It also somewhat follows from something written by Gary Zukav in his book, The Seat of the Soul. But then again, what does he know?

 

On a more informative level...ill outline something that happened today

been a stressful few days...slept little last night. so my mind is in the state to allow things to slip.

I visit a mate, matt...interesting guy, known him for about 3 years now. Quite strange but pretty straight up. I took him to see my new apartment, we sat around for a bit then decided to go visit a mutual friend chris. When we saw chris he was by himself having a smoke on the front porch of his house, one of the first things chris said, and this seemed to have no context, was that "he'd stolen the computer while you were away". An odd comment without a context...hard to place one because all that was said before that was hello's

When I got home, my ipod was missing. Still is, bugs the hell out of me...I very much doubt matt took it, searched high and low for it so far no sign.

Argh :/

EDIT:yay it turned up in plain view!

 

So I was at a pscyhiatrist today and a prattled onto him about thought projection/broadcasting...in respect of psychotic type symptoms at least. I can't remember how this part is touched on previously,

Back in the time of simplistic communication and complex emotions, some groups believe that the human condition was easily a painful one in so far as schizophrenia was rife. It would make sense that if you hard trouble identifying the thought patterns in others (because of a cultural infancy) then you may well still lead a rich internal life which could quickly be accommodated by something akin to voices. Voices have a tendency to become demons, and this maybe a source of paranoia...or at least very early delusions.

People of the tribe who became delusional would be treated one way or another...some became spiritual leaders, healers, mad men, slaves...anyway the traits that they displayed have been part of society for all time. What I think this means is that there is a range of spiritual experiences that at their root can be identified at a subconscious but still cultural level.

Now...I am some what of a believer in magic (in a broad sense) must be accepted by all (at some level) for it to work. So, there are ancient social etiquettes that vary from group to group on how to interact with a person who is operating at a psychotic level. These rules may include the allowance of particular magic (telepathy?).

Coming back to the acceptance, the schizophrenic may very much want for people to understand them, and the observers may think the schizophrenic has something unique to offer.

 

I've toyed with the thought that there may be something about the neurophysiological peculiarities of schizophrenia and the delusional state of bipolar disorder that in SOME cases may allow for the operation of psychic abilities. It's a tricky thing, of course. This is not to say that a person must be insane to experience psychic abilities, and also not to say that an insane person must necessarily experience psychic abilities. And some insane people may think and say they have psychic abilities but merely be deluded about that belief. And further, some insane people who actually DO have some psychic abilities may be so mentally impaired that their psychic impressions are of no practical value. I just wonder if MAYBE in some cases the brain alterations associated with insanity also engender greater psychic connection. And I also wonder if this may be due to some evolutionary forces that select for greater psychic awareness, but may do so at the expense of mental stability.

Speculations again...but based on some things I've seen and heard and read about...

 

Well. The last thing i saw related to that was a study that looked at people who experience ESP/telepathy/ghosts etc and those who are having a psychotic episode.

Under fMRI (functional MRI...measures changes in brain states) i think it was, the activity that was noted, you cannot differentiate between a sane person who sees ghosts and an insane person who hallucinates ghosts.

 

indeed i think they went as far to say that the anatomical differences seen in the schizophrenic brain are as common in psychics

 

Well, both people believe they are experiencing ghosts, so to them it's the same experience, even though supposedly one experience is "real" (some may question this, of course) and the other is delusional (ummm, and by the way, how do the researchers know it's delusional?) I would expect brain activation patterns to be the same for two people having what seems to them to be a similar experience. As the saying goes, "More studies are needed."

 

Now this statement is interesting, and bears more thought...and also brings to mind another thought: Is it possible some schizophrenics are psychic, but it's just about impossible to tell because their thinking is so screwed up...

 

Of course you might well arsk why I'm so interested in this line of thought, and the answer is that I've had psychic experiences AND had times in my life when I was experiencing what seemed like maybe borderline schizophrenic tendencies.

So there it is. Now I've said it.

And I might add that a particular person whom I know definitely has profound psychic abilities is under medication for bipolar disorder. So one wonders, doesn't one?

 

do you think its a possibility that you might be imagining/hallucinating your so called power?

 

I am a fully diagnoised and branded schizophrenic by the NHS of Britian.

I think there is such a thing as telepathic communication - but then again .. so do alot of people on this forum

what I am really saying is that believe in telepathic communication is no more schizo than believing in God.

read into that one as you will

 

Oops...edited.

I'd say the strongest difference between a psychic and a schizophrenic would be how well they cope with reality

However, i also think there are more genuine schizophrenics/psychotic individuals than there are psychic individuals...

its a lot of productive to fake psychic gifts, perhaps the schizophrenic doesn't realize they're faking it. I know I certainly have mistaken a lot of situations to be mystical.

I once tried to work thought broadcasting, and ideations of reference (which i consider to be the same thing...but with thought broadcasting the reference is coming from people) into a concept of gravity of fate so to speak.

I put it that the intensity that one experiences life has a gravitational effect on the events around you, the greater your intensity, the more your warp perception of events so that they face you and one can garner a deeper meaning from them. (this is analogous to real gravity warping space, thought gravity will warp experience) I argued that due to the fact that your presence is having a strong influence over the environment, then people will attempt to over come it in some way...this is a natural thing, ie doesn't have to be a conscious action.

Their actions/reactions to your gravity can very well amplify your intensity...as you react to them. Eventually someone will get worn out.

 

well i agree that you can directly and indirectly influence your environment and those around you, but not by your thoughts or any other mystical forces, just physical actions, i know some people will disagree, so comments?


also about your "gravity" theory, gravity has a direct coloration to mass, therefore if your gravity increases, then your mass should increase as well. so this is actually a testable theory if your interested.

how would you measure these forces?
how would you measure the difference in regular experience as apposed to a warped experience?
please elaborate on this hypothesis it sounds interestingly absurd.

 

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2174763/qigong_master_boils_water_with_his_hands_pyrokinesis/

watch that.

Your thoughts aren't mystical, it's metaphyiscal.

The way I understand it, and it works so far, is that of all the dimension, the highest (12th) is a dimension where everything is everything and anything. When you think, you create in that dimension, and as you visualize more and more you can bring your mental creation through the dimensions in a 'solidifying' matter, until it reaches whatever dimension. To physically create something this way is possible, but takes the better part of a year and a lot silence.


Also, look into Tulpas. They are a flesh-and-bone materialization of imagination.

 

ok i would like to open up my argument by saying that i myself have come up with some crazy theories about the 12th dimension while tripping ballz on LSD. BUT, these theories are just ideas that have NO FACTUAL evidence in the real world. so we cannot use things that are not absolute facts in arguments.

heres a perfect example. yeah im sure u understand it that way guy, but where is the evidence that this 12th dimension exists?? so untill u provide cited proof of this 12th dimension, you cannot use it in a logical argument.

next thing, you cannot materialize any matter just with thought or willpower. you cant. period. you cant because it violates the law of conservation of matter/energy.

hey i did look into tulpas and this is wha i found:

from wiki:
In mysticism a tulpa is the concept of a being or object which is created through sheer willpower alone. It is a materialized thought that has taken physical form and is usually regarded as synonymous to a thoughtform.

we already concluded that this was not possible.

now as for the video, im proud you found something with some scientific facts behind it, and while the guy is no where near materializing an object from the 12th dimension, i can agree that its pretty amazing. too bad we only have the credibility of "ripleys believe it or not!"

do you have something more scientifically credible?

 

I'm not claiming any "power." I'm just talking about my experiences. If you read my earlier posts in this thread you'll get a better idea of what kinds of experiences I'm talking about and why I regard them as psychic.

 

Oh I wasn't talking about the same physical reality as such, i was talking about the reality we experience...i believe these are different, one is absolute and the other is a product of our mind reconstructing information garned from senses.

So when I say thought gravity warps reality, what I am saying is that if you are being intense within yourself, then that which you process from outside you will warp towards what you are intense about.

I didn't mean literal mass/weight...i was using an idea that a thought can be something persistant that can gain dominance within a mind ? and warp the field that could represent the virtual space of ones counciousness

 

In saying what i did say, i do believe there is a lot of things that happen that in a normal state one would not pay attention to..i think all the information you could want is right in front of you but for simpicities sake (ie escaping that carnivorus canine) we will block most of it out in favour of focus on something specific