Those Against Homosexuality Are Not Bigots

There was a traveling fair that came through town many years ago. They had a monkey in a cage and that monkey just sat and beat off in front of everybody.

 

Shale, I'm sorry but you really don't do your argument any good when you come out with some of these phrases. You talk about "bigots" then you use phrases like "Christian bullshit". Would you like it if others talked about "homo bullshit"? You might not like Christianity, but its done much good over the past 2000 yrs.
And (tho I'm not wishing to be argumentative) in most people's views, infinitely more so than homosexuality!

As for Maccabbee's comments re the spread of disease. Well he was summarising a situation and you took one inference. You have to agree that the spread of AIDS and HIV throughout the male homosexual demographic was utterly gigantic. And it spread to heterosexual demographic via bisexuals and via other methods eg drug usage/accidents etc/contaminated blood. The spreadability of a disease is governed by 2 factors. First, how common the disease already is and second, the acts which can spread it.

Its indisputable that anal sex is inherently far more risky for AIDS/HIV spread than heterosexual intercourse. And condoms (which have been shunned until recent yrs by many groups!) are NOT foolproof anyway. As for lesbianism well ofcourse that is NOT a high HIV/AIDS risk. However female oral sex does have higher risks than certain other sexual actitivites. Finally, I think Macc. was saying that the promotion of homosexuality by "LGBT" groups meant more bi/homosexuality (male) which meant a faster spread of the disease. Surely, you have to accept that statistically he is correct. And the fact still remains that anal intercourse even with condoms has risks that vaginal with condoms has to a far lower extent.

So you claim we only see a "tip of the iceberg" of homosexuality? And its all the fault of people like me?
Well actually, I've seen lots of heterosexual people pressured into homosexuality and finally shunned it.
Career inducements (very common in the creative industries), bullying butch girlfriends, childhood trauma, poor diet and low testosterone/ contaminated foods.
There's also the financial inducements given to homeless young males ("rentboys") etc.
All we can do is agree to disagree and say that the evidence seems to be around 5% of the popln in 2016 or so.
Thats AFTER aggressive promotion and environmental pollutant issues of today.

Most people DO agree with me. We've addressed the issues many times before.
Homosexual militants deny the following:-

1)the causes of homosexuality - trauma, aggressive promotion, career inducement, environmental and food pollutants.
2)the fact it is NOT set in stone. It can be promoted.
And its desires can be curtailed by various treatments.

Homosexuals are allowed to perform homosexual acts in private. Why does the homosexual militants lobby demand ever more and more and more? They have the same rights as heterosexuals. And MORE rights than many sexual groups.

What people are outraged by are:-
1)the attack on religions of moderation
2)The attack on ancient values and principles which are the bedrock of Western society.
3)bizarrely pretending you can rewrite the defintion of words such as "marriage".
4)the fact that homosexual militants refuse to consider the horrifying ramifications of extremist faux liberalism
5)the fact adopted children are routinely denied the right to a mother or father figure as extremist grounds relentlessly ram their agenda down people's throats without any regard for the rights of a child +/or his/her family's wishes.
6)the fact that illness - such as sterility, cancer, birth defects, effeminancy/butchness from these pollutants are swept under the carpet.
Because those same pollutants are causing increased homosexual desire in society as well. This isn't a concoction from the Westboro Baptists. This is from the UN, the WHO, the EU's committees on environmental disasters etc etc

Homosexuals are ultimately being USED and abused by the groups that claim to be "liberating" them.
Don't things like cancer risk from unnecessary pollutants/poisons actually bother you?
What about movements to promote incestuous childbearing, paedophilia, real life sexual slavery or sexual suicide cults? How about promoting them to the vulnerable and children. Aren't you against all these? Don't you think the whole topic should be considered in a logical manner, devoid of abusive phrases like "bigot", "homophobe" etc?

Seriously, I'm interested. Where do you stand on the concerns above?

 

I don't care.

Ain't got time for long arguments that go nowhere anyhow.

 

Career inducement? That's why our workers are being offered a chance to advance their careers by giving me a blowjob. Nothing easier than turning a worker gay by
offering them an advancement in their careers by a little suckin' behind the work trailer. Doesn't everyone?

 

:rofl:

 

Take a look at the music, TV, film and theatre industry. Likewise the "old boy networks" of ex private schools in England.

I mean if homosexuals are 5% of the popln, why are they such a VAST proportion in some creative fields.

I know a guy who was told by a film director as a kid, "get bummed by me, and you'll be a star". He told the guy to fuck off, and so it ended his acting career.

 

please provide the resources for this info.

 

Who knows what the ACTUAL % of the population is gay? I mean--I don't recall that question in a census taken. Perhaps the more people that reject strict bible and other societal
restrictions on behavior, many taboos seem unnecessary and controlling. I suppose that's one reason why gays and others are coming out these days more than ever. ANY group of people will eventually tire of being mocked, mistreated, beaten and occasionally killed. And what worldly difference does it make to me or you what consenting adults do physically? Now, isn't that stretching a case some concerning an actor? What--the guy that said that was the only game in town?

 

Methinks you have a case of the hyperbo-leees. That'll eventually getcha'.

 

The number of active bisexuals is almost surely going up, especially among younger people, because an increasing number can't think of a good reason not to experiment. And some of them really like it.

 

You're perfectly allowed to have your own opinion, but I disagree with you. There's a big difference between turning away an abusive customer and a customer who has different beliefs than your own. It is NO different to turn away an order for a homosexual couple because they are gay than it is to turn away an order from a KKK member because they are racist.

 

You know a guy (brother's sister's old neighbor's 4th grade teacher?) who was told as a kid - key word being kid. This is pedophilia. For some reason you and the OP seem to have a problem with confusing pedophilia with consentual sex between the same gender.

Yes I have heard pedophilia is an issue in Hollywood, but it doesn't relate to the topic of homosexuality.

 

Here's the first random ones that came up:-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1260479/Gender-bender-chemicals-putting-risk.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-44676/Gender-bending-chemicals-tin-cans.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-44676/Gender-bending-chemicals-tin-cans.html

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/12/101203-homosexual-birds-mercury-science/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1334725/Mercury-diet-making-male-birds-gay.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1092726/Gender-bending-chemicals-putting-future-risk.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/geoffrey-lean/6418553/Why-boys-are-turning-into-girls.html

Seriously, if anyone reads the above and then says "oh it doesn't matter" then I think they need their head reading.
This is an appallingly desecration of the planet. And its killing vast numbers of people prematurely every year.
The media Establishment and their backers at Monsanto/Glaxo etc have been playing people for fools.

This is just a snippet. Its many chemicals - from pharmaceuticals, to plastic packaging, to tin foil, E additives and much else.

 

How so?

 

than what word would you use to describe the biological imperative for reproducing, leaving aside any and all human trappings such as morality, etc.
So instead of "purpose" what do you feel would better convey the idea that at it's most simple and core consideration, sex is for continuing the species.

 

What you mean is, if something doesn't fit into your agenda, hide your eyes to it and argue black is white!

I can't remember if he was 16 or 18. Very young looking anyway.

The kid was male. The director was male. So it was HOMO-sexuality. NOT heterosexuality!!!! VERY SIMPLE!

I've known a number of males who were pressured into underaged homosexual acts. They tell me that they stayed engaging in homosexual acts for a number of years and then decided they had been traumatised. And finally entered into heterosexual relationships. The point is, pressurisation and trauma can cause an interest in practicising homosexuality. A form of Stockholme Syndrome really. BDSM practioners say the same thing. As do some heterosexual sex addicts and other groups.

 

So essentially this thread boils down to everybody is right and everybody is wrong. Whew...... Glad we cleared that up.