This Obama situation reminds me of Hitler

odon,, this guy only posts monday through friday.

since im not a financial expert and he is i tend to go by his analysis..

read his commentary on the news for 2 weeks then come back and tell me you think im overreacting if you still think i am..

Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis

my other main financial news source is,

Stormwatch - Market Reports

they only update monday through friday as well..

you cant reach a conclusion on something as dire as what we are facing by browsing one days articles.thats why i ask that you read both sites for a couple weeks..

 

I'll read them.
But I don't think they will point to the scenario you suggest.

I tend to read the financial times to be honest.
http://www.ft.com/home/uk

 

what scenario exactly do you think i am suggesting odon? i know youve even quoted my statements but i just wanna make sure your not reading something into my statements thats not there...

 

Agreed, he babbles like an idiot. St st studder lol there ya go thats bush!!!

 

An intentional global economic catastrophe the likes of which mankind has never imagined...

 

well as far as mankind in a general sense,(your average everyday joe) in todays society,,yes thats correct..

IMO,it is going to be far worse than the great depression.
it has no option but to be global as todays markets are linked far to tightly for it not to be..
like i said,spend a couple weeks reading mish's analysis of the news,go back and read some of his previous posts,read the daily headlines from storm watch for a couple weeks and then tell me what you think..

ive been doing this for about 6 months now and i say we are fucked..
it hasnt even got good and rolling down hill yet...

 

What made your view interesting was the "intentional" part.
Could you develop that point for me?
Maybe we are heading for the worst financial predicament mankind has ever imagined...but I doubt it.
Yes the world is in trouble but nothing like a great depression or a total collapse.
Like I said, I will read your links though.

 

just read the shit i posted then come back and play eternal optimist in 2 weeks..

like i said,i am not a financial expert.if you read mish's commentary for 2 weeks you will understand how its all tied together. i could not do the explanation justice..

oh heres another good source..

DollarCollapse - Your ringside seat for the global financial crisis

 

Is it intentional yes or no?

 

http://www.24hgold.com/viewarticle....tems___Dysfunctional_Mechanisms_Jim_Willie_CB

good read..

 

that is one of those things that cant truly be proved..

is there intentional manipulation of the markets goin on? yes.

are there disastrous decisions being made intentionally? well there are disastrous decisions being made,whether the people making them realize it or not is once again virtually impossible to prove..

do i personally believe the collapse is intentional? yes,yes i do..

whether its intentional or not is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things however. whats coming is coming..

 

That has always applied.
Good times and bad.

Yes bad dicisions have been made.
Good ones will be made though.
I have an urge to say: We have our ups and downs like we always do.
Something akin to fitzy or Cates POV.

You can't put your rationale into words?
That is a shame.
I'll not push it any further then.

 

Alright. Back to the original topic. Obama is not an agent of change but I heavily avoided this thread because it reminded me of the other fallacy going around about Obama.. some lame thing I read that ppl ACTUALLY BELIEVE (seriously how dumb are people?)- something about his name sounding like saddam and bin laden... so yeah why would you want to have a prez with names that sound like them... ummmm maybe cause a name is a name is a name... and it's bullshit yet it's an emotional technique and there are idiots who will get SCARED subconsciously and not vote for him because though they probably will never admit it even to themselves.. it scares people. So yeah the whole comparing Obama to Hitler... same thing. The thing is, I don't think Obama is what he says he is.. Look at what his job field is.. politics. Duh.
But I do not like cheap shots or emotional shots like that. Obama is compared to Hitler why... cause he has charisma, makes shitty speeches that idiots find amazing and what else? Oh yeah the market is ready to collapse and we're all gonna die and blah blah. If you're gonna hate on Obama, please use intelligence. I don't think some of you understand how serious Hitler is and you DON'T compare someone to Hitler without probable cause. Its wrong and it's a cheap shot.

Anyways FITZY... i read the whole thread and though I agree with PR and HHB about what they are saying overall... you know i'm kinda dooms day... my view is slightly diff. as I believe we still have the potential to stop things... if people remain optimistic and act NOW. I believe it is a pivital time (sp.) and I am glad I am alive now. Even though I might die I could not have picked a better time to be alive because I want to be a part of the cause and the POTENTIAL I see is nothing short of amazing. Okay, so you cracked me up. That boogeyman comment.. it's just absurd how a thread comparing OBAMA and HITLER!!! (wtf) got turned into what it did and yeah that comment you made and your SIGNATURE... wow... amazing. You're smarter then some get. And yeah we ALL deserve to die. Those who don't get it (probably most of them)- let's just say it's a double edged sword. Good n bad... take it how you see it but yeah.. death... drools.

HHB.. i respect you and i wish you well this weekend on your survival gathering. if i was anywhere nearby id be there. let me know how it went, kay? seriously. i think that is awesome.

odon, you're smart.
stalk.. you ... do i say it.. you have the right train of thought however you never back things up and you appear pompous at times and use emoptional reasoning. at least hhb backs things up.

the TRUTH of the matter is... there is a financial collapse coming.. yeah it already started and yeah, it's worse then just money issues. it's the goddamn third world coming to your back door and some of you will escape it. some of us will not. i dont have a farm like hhb. i live in a town area and cannot afford land. HOWEVER i have about a two year supply of rice and cheap cheap cheap ghetto food but i wont starve. be prepared for disasters but honestly... try to keep hope in the world. no one realllly knows what is gonna happen or when. a lot of us can sense something is gonna happen but you CANT really stop it. unless some of you are finally ready to fight to stop it. that is what makes me so mad about this stuff... and hhb you are not included in this... a lot of people like to cry wolf.. they like to inform. but every single time i try to find out who is ready to FIGHT to stop it and save ppl. not one person wants to do anything about it. that to me is lame. so i suggest seriously before you go crying end of the world, tell me how to stop it. if you tell me how to stop it, ill be on the front line with you but until then... stop trying to scare people when you don't have a solution. NOT YOU HHB! anyways this is with love n respect.

 

i just climbed my ass outta bed odon and im in the middle of my wake n bake session..
im sorry if my failure to elaborate with my half awake,half baked brain disappoints you but your just going to have to deal with it...

 

thanks trish.. its going to be interesting.... well the sky is lighting up,guests should be arriving early.going to get the oven fired up and bread made before most get here so gotta get off this thing for a while..
will let everyone know how it went.
probably wont be back on this thing till sometime monday after people get here..
we are treating it pretty much rainbow style so that means we will be down in the holler at the big kitchen all weekend..

hope everyone has a great holiday weekend..wish us luck with the survivalists..lol

 

cool cool. i hope there is lots of learning involved for them and for you guys..(like how to deal with stuff before it happens)
btw your sig quote reminded me of this song
working within the system and the prob with it and all
respect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Vl0peys90

 

if it dont apply let it fly. if it applies, work it
"Most of my Latino and black people who are struggling to get food, clothes and shelter in the hood are so concerned with that, that philosophising about freedom and socialist democracy is usually unfortunately beyond their rationale. They don't realize that America can't exist without separating them from their identity, because if we had some sense of who we really are, there's no way in hell we'd allow this country to push it's genocidal consensus on our homelands. This ignorance exists, but it can be destroyed.

Niggas talk about change and working within the system to achieve that. The problem with always being a conformist is that when you try to change the system from within, it's not you who changes the system; it's the system that will eventually change you. There is usually nothing wrong with compromise in a situation, but compromising yourself in a situation is another story completely, and I have seen this happen long enough in the few years that I've been alive to know that it's a serious problem. Latino America is a huge colony of countries whose presidents are cowards in the face of economic imperialism. You see, third world countries are rich places, abundant in resources, and many of these countries have the capacity to feed their starving people and the children we always see digging for food in trash on commercials. But plutocracies, in other words a government run by the rich such as this one and traditionally oppressive European states, force the third world into buying overpriced, unnecessary goods while exporting huge portions of their natural resources.

I'm quite sure that people will look upon my attitude and sentiments and look for hypocrisy and hatred in my words. My revolution is born out of love for my people, not hatred for others.

You see, most of Latinos are here because of the great inflation that was caused by American companies in Latin America. Aside from that, many are seeking a life away from the puppet democracies that were funded by the United States; places like El Salvador, Guatemala, Peru, Colombia, Nicaragua, Ecuador and Republica Dominicana, and not just Spanish-speaking countries either, but Haiti and Jamaica as well.

As different as we have been taught to look at each other by colonial society, we are in the same struggle and until we realize that, we'll be fighting for scraps from the table of a system that has kept us subservient instead of being self-determined. And that's why we have no control over when the embargo will stop in Cuba, or when the bombs will stop dropping in Vieques.

But you see, here in America the attitude that is fed to us is that outside of America there live lesser people. "Fuck them, let them fend for themselves." No, Fuck you, they are you. No matter how much you want to dye your hair blonde and put fake eyes in, or follow an anorexic standard of beauty, or no matter how many diamonds you buy from people who exploit your own brutally to get them, no matter what kind of car you drive or what kind of fancy clothes you put on, you will never be them. They're always gonna look at you as nothing but a little monkey. I'd rather be proud of what I am, rather than desperately trying to be something I'm really not, just to fit in. And whether we want to accept it or not, that's what this culture or lack of culture is feeding us.

I want a better life for my family and for my children, but it doesn't have to be at the expense of millions of lives in my homeland. We're given the idea that if we didn't have these people to exploit then America wouldn't be rich enough to let us have these little petty material things in our lives and basic standards of living. No, that's wrong. It's the business giants and the government officials who make all the real money. We have whatever they kick down to us. My enemy is not the average white man, it's not the kid down the block or the kids I see on the street; my enemy is the white man I don't see: the people in the white house, the corporate monopoly owners, fake liberal politicians those are my enemies. The generals of the armies that are mostly conservatives those are the real Mother-Fuckers that I need to bring it to, not the poor, broke country-ass soldier that's too stupid to know shit about the way things are set up.

In fact, I have more in common with most working and middle-class white people than I do with most rich black and Latino people. As much as racism bleeds America, we need to understand that classism is the real issue. Many of us are in the same boat and it's sinking, while these bougie Mother-Fuckers ride on a luxury liner, and as long as we keep fighting over kicking people out of the little boat we're all in, we're gonna miss an opportunity to gain a better standard of living as a whole.

In other words, I don't want to escape the plantation I want to come back, free all my people, hang the Mother-Fucker that kept me there and burn the house to the god damn ground. I want to take over the encomienda and give it back to the people who work the land.

You cannot change the past but you can make the future, and anyone who tells you different is a Fucking lethargic devil. I don't look at a few token Latinos and black people in the public eye as some type of achievement for my people as a whole. Most of those successful individuals are sell-outs and house Negros.

But, I don't consider brothers a sell-out if they move out of the ghetto. Poverty has nothing to do with our people. It's not in our culture to be poor. That's only been the last 500 years of our history; look at the last 2000 years of our existence and what we brought to the world in terms of science, mathematics, agriculture and forms of government. You know the idea of a confederation of provinces where one federal government controls the states? The Europeans who came to this country stole that idea from the Iroquois lead. The idea of impeaching a ruler comes from an Aztec tradition. That's why Montezuma was stoned to death by his own people 'cause he represented the agenda of white Spaniards once he was captured, not the Aztec people who would become Mexicans.

So in conclusion, I'm not gonna vote for anybody just 'cause they black or Latino they have to truly represent the community and represent what's good for all of us proletariat.

Porque sino entonces te mando por el carajo cabron gusano hijo de puta, seramos libre pronto, viva la revolucion, VIVA LA REVOLUCION!"

 

I'll wait then

 

Thanks!