This made me cry

Things fall into degrees... I can see how some might place animals over people. I know I can trust an animal... I can't always trust people.

 

cant always trust animals either

 

Animals can be trusted because they do not speak, and do not question you. True?

 

Animals can be trusted more than humans because, unlike humans, they are capable of unconditional love.

 

Some people cry more easily than others so you can't really use that as a measurement of grief. My mom still has a cat that was originally mine, I got her when I was 13 and I'm sure I'll cry when she dies. I doubt I'll grieve though. When my dog dies I know I'll not only cry but grieve for several weeks or months.I don't really get attached to cats like that.

 

....if the food drys up the cats will leave...its a fact


it is such a ridiculous notion that people arent capable of unconditional love....doesnt warrant a reply...just a tsk tsk

 

Like I said, animals can't speak. They do like petting and attention, perhaps. But to a certain degree it is your love of them that matters more than their love of you. Why do some cats just leave a loving home. Food?

 

That's harsh but fair, imho.

 

Actually, no...

Most people don't give animals enough credit. Do they speak? Yes but not in human voice. (*Some obviously do speak human language as well) It's there If you know what to listen too/look for. They are highly intelligent.. Which science is finally getting around to realizing how intelligent. On top of intelligence they also have instinct which humans seem to have fully lost, what shreds of instinct we do still have, "It's an intuition" meant to be ignored. For the most part they (blanket statement) are more adept at living on this planet than we are.


Anyways. What I'm saying is within a species, if you know how they react or respond to their environment, then it's rather easy to trust how they will react when something happens. Obviously my crow will respond differently than my cat but I know what to expect out of either one.

 

When my cat died in November from kidney failure, I cried for weeks. She was 15, I had her from a kitten.

Furry babies are a bit more than a goldfish, when it comes to losing them.

 

I won't respond to the ignorant posts in this thread, but thanks Maelstrom for posting such a touching story. Reading such things always makes me cry, and my own emotions over losing my first cat 2 and a half years ago can still be quite raw sometimes. Nonetheless, reading such stories also makes me realise that I shouldn't lose what very little faith I have in human nature. Meeno was a beautiful cat. <3

 

Whoever is disliking mine other other peoples post in here, send me a PM, id like to have a word with you

 

I really enjoyed that story, Maelstrom, even though it ended so sadly, Unfortunately, that is the plight of becoming friends with a cat or dog, their lifespans don't quite meet that of humans.

I've bawled my eyes out for brand new kittens that didn't make it, I've cried for every pet I've ever lost, and I even almost broke down when I thought my neighbor's dog was dead this morning (he was just sleeping like a dead dog was all, lol). I won't defend myself for it either. That may make me childish and be an un-adult thing to do, but I feel it makes me human.

 

this thread made me want to cry...

too many posts that warrant responses. i'll just grab up a couple of them.

i've seen several examples of unconditional love by humans. never from an animal, at least not that has been tested.

growing up, my family had several pets. the best was a dog that lived to be 15. his whole life, he was basically the best dog i've had, in every way. then at about 14, he decided to start biting everyone for no reason.

but, i suppose you could argue that he could still be trusted to bite you.


yeah i know, 0 out of 2 members like this post. i love animals, but i'm not going to lie about them just for the thumbs up.

 

Just because humans are capable of giving unconditional love, doesn't mean that the majority of people, or even most people, are individually actually capable of that. Certainly, I have never personally seen acts of unconditional love from humans. Apart from on tv and in movies. I have however, personally seen a great deal of very un-loving behaviour from humans. "I love you" are very easy words to say, but not always easy to mean wholeheartedly, especially not when they are actually put to the test.

And there is certainly overwhelming observational evidence that animals can show unconditional love. And, as someone who has owned cats for the best part of 20 years, I would certainly vouch for that they can show unconditional love.

I don't know a huge amount about dogs, so I can't really speak about that. However, there are numerous reasons why a cat may bite. A cat can bite when it's stressed, fearful, or in pain. There's also affectionate/play biting. So certainly, a cat biting, is far from necessarily being a reason that it "can't be trusted".

And what's with all this moaning about being "thumbed down"? And people are being called "childish" for crying over a dying cat? You couldn't make it up. lol

 

the quote that i responded to was "unlike humans, they are capable of unconditional love." the majority was not mentioned, just the fact that humans are incapable of unconditional love. i don't know for sure that they are, but i have seen pretty damn close to it from humans, and not from other animals.

yeah, and there's numerous reasons why a human may steal. that doesn't mean that a person who steals from you repeatedly can be trusted.

that was my first post in this thread; i hadn't been thumbed down and i'm not moaning about it. i just read all 50-something posts and noticed a clear trend that every post which didn't say something along the lines of "animals are wonderful and people are evil" was getting 2 thumbs down. to me that's what's childish. if you disagree with something, say it. don't hide behind an anonymous rating system to try and invalidate people's opinions.

 

I guess we can only go from our own personal experiences, but just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. And I would not say that all humans are incapable of unconditional love just because I haven't personally seen it. I would say however, that those humans who are capable of it are certainly not the norm.

World of difference between the two scenarios there, I'm afraid. Unless a person is suffering from a mental illness (in which case, they may be able to be absolved of responsibility for their actions), then someone who steals from you repeatedly is well aware that what they are doing is wrong, but they do it anyway for their own personal benefit. A cat biting out of stress, or thinking they are playing, are not aware that they are being bad, or doing anything wrong. They are not deliberately setting out to cause harm to you, the thief however, is. In one instance the person is betraying your trust, the cat however, is not.

I know you hadn't been thumbed down, but you mentioned others' posts which had been. So that must mean that on some level, it bothered you. I think anyone who uses the thumbs up/down system has no cause to complain about other people using it. I'm sure there are some people who are hypocrites when it comes to that. There are people who would expect others to be upfront with them, but think nothing of bashing others behind their backs. My latter point isn't necessarily reffering to "thumbing down", as much as some people's general attitude in life.

Besides, in an earlier post I labelled the people criticising those who grieve over cats, as ignorant. Nothing anonymous about that. Just that I had no wish to enter into an arguement/debate over it. Either way, taking thumbs up/thumbs down to heart is pretty immature if you ask me. I'm not saying you do, but there are some people who make way too big a deal out of being thumbed down. At the end of the day, it isn't harming anybody.

It's a shame that such a nice, heartwarming thread, has been turned into an arguement over whether animals are deserving of such compassion or not. I dunno why some people have to be so mean spirited.

 

Cats aren't just pets, they become your family members, with their own traits and personalities.
Yes, this made me cry, I know the feeling of losing an animal you have lived with, and been so comfortable with for so long. Maybe I am a childish adult or a non-functioning member of 'society', or maybe its just empathy and understanding. I was distraught when my old cat died, I will be distraught when my two living cats die too.

It is not true that your cats don't love you back. I recently took a trip abroad, my cats had someone there at home with them constantly, food and water, and company. But when I returned they were so happy to see me, they missed their 'mum'. You bond with cats, earn their trust and respect and eventually their love. They are just like people, they get mad at you, they are cheeky and playful, but they also like to just chill out on the sofa, they have music taste (one of mine likes folk, the other likes metal).

There are no rules on who can cry for what reason. Crying because your cat has died doesn't make you any less of a normal person. Humans were made to feel, unfortunately most dont.

 

+rep...



Cheers Glen.

 

People who say that cats are incapable of showing love and affection to their human companions don't understand cats, it's as simple as that. My first cat used to curl up near my amplifier when I played my guitar, so he was clearly a metal lover, just like his "mum". lol

The problem here I feel is a classic case of people criticising what they don't understand. If you don't understand or "get" something, then there's something automatically wrong with it. That is the way that a lot of people are, unfortunately. People who lack empathy for animals, at least in my mind, are displaying inhumanity, rather than humanity. I feel that if someone lacks the mental capacity to understand why I'd cry when my cat (or someone else's cat for that matter) is ill or has died, then it is them who has the problem, not me. However, if feeling love and compassion for animals was "abnormal", then I'd be proud to call myself such.

It is true that there seems to be a lot more anti-cat sentiments from people, than anti-dog. Cats do seem to generate a level of hatred, or at least apathy and impassiveness for their well being, that is generally not felt towards dogs. I feel this is because cats are mysterious, and are much more misunderstood as a species.