This is what Rudenoodle thinks Hippy Nature is. Anyone care to discuss it with him?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by OlderWaterBrother, Dec 19, 2008.

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  1. PAX-MAN

    PAX-MAN Just A Old Hippy

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    I believe that you came here of your own free will.

    PAX
     
  2. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Well I have to agree with you there, but try to remember, so did you. :hat:
     
  3. oink

    oink Member

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    Nah!
     
  4. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    "So you have been writing single stanza quips about the meaning of life?"

    "Nothing is true, everything is permitted Last words of Hassan i Sabbah

    Keine Mehrheit Für Die Mitleid"

    Are those single stanza quips?

    I don't think that it's necessary to psychoanalyze each other like this because I feel it detracts from the argument, but maybe it can be important on some level?

    Rudenoodle can give his own opinions on hippie nature, but I am not entirely sure if those are really opinions.

    Are you just trying to create a rise out of people?
     
  5. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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  6. erzebet1961

    erzebet1961 Senior Member

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    I know the ugly things that are going on in the world , My baby brother has been in the Military for close to 20 years now , so I am very close to this POLICE ACTION thats been going on way too long.
    Maybe I dont protest or bring up such topics because they cause me some pain . It makes me feel so sad , all the people that are dying on both sides , so , I keep those things inside where i can ponder and pray over them.
    And , I choose to surround myself with tranquility , and love .
    Maybe it is a brain dead ideology , maybe I surround myself with false hope.....but it makes me happy to believe that there is still some hope for a better world , and just maybe it can start with some old hippies and their out of date beliefs.

    Peace to ya'll


    an huggs to you brother rudenoodle
     
  7. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    People don't always have the option of being surrounded by hope, false or otherwise, I choose to take side with those people.

    As long as there are hippies in the United States I will know that the country is still in decent enough shape to be taken for granted.
     
  8. erzebet1961

    erzebet1961 Senior Member

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    So how do hippys take this country for granted ?
     
  9. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    By condemning ALL military action in response to global events.

    In other words purposely attempting to remain uninformed(and dis inform others) on social issues around the world and eagerly getting behind a cop out easy to defend stance such as "peace and love will save the world".

    Helping to make make uninformed citizens who feel the government is as easy to understand as the slogans in a Beatles song.

    Commercialism and globalization will change the world much sooner than peace and love.
     
  10. erzebet1961

    erzebet1961 Senior Member

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    well...I can honestly say that myself , and most of the hippys I know are VERY well informed on all the social issues and what the govt is up to , and maybe we dont exactly enjoy war , we dont try to stop people from joining the military either.
    We dont make uniformed citizens , we make citizens that try to see ALL the options , not just the option to kill and destroy.

    Maybe someday you will meet some hippys you actually like !
     
  11. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't dislike you for being a "hippie", I was just stating the many hypocrisies in the whole "hippie/anti-war" cultural zeitgeist.

    I know it sounds good to say "give peace a chance" but that will not solve the worlds problems, and it probably never will.

    You have the luxury and every right to say and explore those beliefs.

    As long as there is bigotry,greed, and superstition there will be war in the world.
     
  12. erzebet1961

    erzebet1961 Senior Member

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    Never say never....miracles happen everyday !!!!!
     
  13. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    :smilielol5::tongue::smilielol5:
     
  14. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    Bullshit, 'noodle. You are a flamer, and a boring one at that...

    Wouldn't you have more fun flaming somewhere else?

    True hippies are not easily provoked, and all you are likely to get in the end is dogpiled with a group hug.

    Unless you're really trying to contribute, then excuse me for saying this but, please take it somewhere else. ZW :peace:
     
  15. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    If you have a problem with what I post don't read them.

    If you have a problem with this thread take it up with OWB.
     
  16. silverhippy

    silverhippy Comfortably Numb

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    Dear Rudenoodle.. What makes you think that all hippies are against any and all war ?? Maybe it's beacuse you think all hippies are passive.. Don't buy into that.. Define war.. Wait, is that where people may fight in the streets for what the believe in ?? And die for it !! I think that happened.. You can only change the world one piece at a time. a hippy idealism is only a start. Just another outlook on life.. And a hope we can all find a way in peace. Realistic ?? Dunno, ya gotta start someplace so why not with the heart ??
    Peace
     
  17. Varuna

    Varuna Senior Member

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    What problem has war solved? You and your enemies have been killing one another for thousands of years, but the problem keeps coming back. And for what? The "right" to violate those who do NOT threaten you? The "right" to desecrate those who seek an enlightened alternative? The "right" to humiliate those who would celebrate your humanity?

    Why don't we consider, and accept, the simple idea that war is a collective mental illness? That war is an age-old cultural illness for which humanity has yet to recognize as such, much less seek or, God willing, FIND a cure?

    But you don't even want to face the idea . . .

    Humans are cultural beings. We live according to that limited vision of reality our thoughts, beliefs, truths, and prejudices allow us to "see."

    As long as the belief that war is justified by bigotry, greed, and superstition is accepted by more people than those who believe the whole "hippie/anti-war" cultural zeitgeist, there will be war in the world.

    I am tired of hearing the militants' insist that this is the way it must be. Especially those who cower from the very idea of another way.

    Peace and Love
     
  18. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Varuna Senior Member

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    Rudenoodle,

    I thought you were gonna go that way. Until the idea is discredited that war can accomplish a lasting solution to one's problems, some idiot will be ready to start a war. I believe this is the basis of your argument, Yes?

    What I am saying is, fundamentally bad but widely accepted ideas (such as slavery, Fascism, or war) CAN be discredited. They are the mass-culture equivalent of a serious mental illness. Illnesses can be cured.

    It is a common delusion, a cultural virus, a civilizational psychopathology to accept the belief that war can accomplish a lasting solution to one's problems.

    Hitler's war should have never happened. The fact that millions of Germans embraced the cultural dementia that causes all wars, does not make it a "good war" for any of the millions of lives wasted. He had to be stopped, but you have to recognize the evils you fear most deeply are actually those acts committed between enemies.

    Now, If I understand you properly, you argue that it is the highest moral responsibility to fight, win and end the tyrant's war.

    Hippie Nature argues that it is the greatest evil to create war. Whether you begin it, or escalate a situation into war.

    Please consider the idea that these are not necessarily opposing arguments.

    Peace and Love
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Here’s another of those brain dead Hippy slogans:
    What if they gave a war and nobody came?

    Remember the slogan of the First World War? It was suppose to be the war to end all wars, like that was going to happen?

    Wars and dictators only happen because we go along with it. The only way to stop them is for people, one person at a time saying; I’ve had enough and I’m not doing it any more. And if you get enough saying that, wars and dictators will be a thing of the past.

    What is more heroic, to be willing to kill for a cause or to be willing to die for a cause?
     
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