This election is staged.

oh hell obama denies the push for the north american union as well in the video i just posted.. hes a lying sack of shit,we all know he lies more than he is truthful..
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/fashion-shows/


and yes im more than familiar with hipstatics game..

 

You are a moron. First of all, you can't cite bogus internet sources. They have to be backed up by credible sources, and Carroll Quigley hardly can be considered credible. The man wrote several novels on how he was allowed to see into the "Shadow Government's" documents. First of all, proof? Second of all, the book is complete trash. The man just wants money and attention, and even a PCT should be able to see that. Dig just a little deeper. Do you really believe everything you're told? Not only by the government, but by anyone else?

You have to be kidding me. He gives a totally valid answer on the CFR. Yes, he has spoken there, no he's not an official 'member'. That's a perfectly valid answer, and I don't see how you could condemn him for being present at a CFR meeting. They talk about foreign policies and relations. It's not a big deal. Second of all, he didn't lie. There are no members. Can you prove this is a lie, or is this just another PCT running their mouth?

 

Hiptastic looks like a well spoken guy, and you're an asshole for calling him out like that. Please be respectful. Wikipedia isn't a scholorly website. Anyone can go on and change what Wiki says. Did you know that? Of course not, because you believe everything you're told, and ask no questions. Hiptastic looks to me, like a guy who knows what he's tlking about among a crowd of idiots, how about listen to him instead of being ignorant jerks?

 

Give Me A Break, Yeal. Hippiehillbilly Has Every Right To Cite Whatever Sources He Wants-And Just Because You Don't Deem Them To Be Credible And Disagree With The Opinions Stated Here Does Not Excuse The Fact That You Have To Resort To Name Calling To Help You Get Your Point Across. Grow Up. Having To Attack Someone Like That Is The Only Moronic Thing I've Seen On This Thread.

 

HES LYING!!!. there are life memberships and term memberships to the CFR!!

HERES YOUR FUCKING PROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WANT A FUCKING APPLICATION??
http://www.cfr.org/about/membership/index.html


are you telling me he has spoken there and did not know there were "memberships"??

if so,,your the fucking moron...

thats why i stay out of these discussions,,people give valid evidence and you all resort to personal attacks in a attempt to make your arguments against fact more valid..

all the rescources are on that page and they are quite extensive.im not pulling up every single resource,,that is why i found a summary..

You can be a naysayer all you want,,thats your choice but please refrain from personal attacks simply because you choose not to believe facts...

 

What? There is a fine line between credible, and incredible. He chose a non-credible resource, so yeah, I called him a moron.

 

Just because there is membership doesn't mean he was lying. He said he spoke there a few times, so he probably didn't know. It isn't that big a deal. It's political pigs like you that make our politicians look bad. Politicians are human, therefore they're prone to making tiny mistakes. When was the last time you made a tiny mistake, and someone called you a liar and made a blog about you on the internet?

 

this coming from someone who is so uninformed on the subject hes discussing,that he did not even know there were memberships to the CFR..

wow that really makes your arguments credible... lol

 

you cant be real?? the democratic nominee for president didnt know there were memberships to the largest "foreign policy think tank" in america?? you mean the democratic nomination for president is just as uninformed as you are??

wow,,thats the most absurd thing ive heard in months...

lol..

your joking right??
to fuckin funny..

 

pretty much daily on here i get called out for the simplest of things like grammar and punctuation,and ANYTIME i mispeak or get my facts incorrect ,dont bother me none,,i usually just admit i was wrong..

as far as obama,,hes running for the highest office in the land he should be subject to the highest scrutiny available and the discrepancies,inconsistencies and out and out lies should be kept track of in great detail so people can see the truth,,not just what the mainstream media spoon feeds them...

damn you are a obama apologist aint ya?


lol

 

There's Absolutely No Need To Call Anyone An Asshole Or A Moron. Having To Stoop To The Level Of Personally Attacking Someone Who Disagrees With Your Point And Chooses An "Incredible Resource" Is Childish, Petty And Unneccessary. There Is A Right Way And Wrong Way To Argue A Subject, Yeal. You Really Do Catch More Flies With Honey Than Vinegar.

 

its OK creek.. i think the debate has pretty much spoken for itself.when ya got nothin,,ya gotta go with personal attacks.lol

some people...

 

"Political Pigs Like You?"

You Are Only Showing Your Lack Of Intelligence And Intolerance, Yeal, And Discrediting Yourself As A Person Worthy Of Debating With. If You Can Post Once Without Insulting Someone, I'd Be Pleasantly Surprised And More Inclined To Listen To What You Have To Say.

 

Why would he? Someone like Obama has probably done hundreds of speaking engagements. Why would he need a membership for everywhere he speaks? That makes no sense. They asked him if he was a member, he said 'no', and you say this proves 'yes'. Pretty lame. If he spoke to the boy scouts would that make him a boy scout?

I put UFOs in google and got a million hits. So UFOs are real?

If you had real evidence you'd show it, not tell people to google for it themselves.

 

umm ,, he also said "there were no memberships",so why would he tell the truth about being a member?


i said he has to "know" there were memberships...so at this point its irrelevant if he is a member or not hes lying to cover his tracks,plain and simple..which tells me he has something to hide about his relationship with the CFR.i would think that anyone that chooses to use logic would come to the same conclusion..

please dont come back with a naive comment like "well maybe he didnt know there were memberships" because although that does give me a belly laugh,,its completely ludicrous to believe that someone of his stature in the political realm would not know the CFR has members especially being hes spoken there before..

 

Why? Why would he need to know that? Because you say so.

He was asked if he was a member, and he said no. You conclude this means yes, based on zero evidence. Get it? You have provided literally nothing that proves he is a member - let me repeat absolutely sweet fuck all nothing - and based on this you conclude he is a member.

This is why you find conspiracy theories so convincing - because your standard of evidence could not get any lower.

 

I put UFOs in google and got a million hits. So UFOs are real?

simple answer yes they are!
UFO= unidentified flying object
prove me wrong!!

 

I doubt I should use English in responding to a jackass, but not being one or an asshole I will assume you can read English as well as write it poorly. "Please be respectful," some admonition from a vulgar character such as you. No one changed what Wikipedia said about the idea of a North American Union. Hopefully, you mean that Hiptastic sounds "like a guy who knows what he's tlking (sic) about." Other than presenting a diatribe you provide no support for your point at all. So you agree with Hiptastic. That's your problem. You not only present yourself as moronic but as an ignorant jerk. I suppose you know what projection is as a psychological phenomena. You are merely projecting your inner self. I hate to get into discussions with children, but I made an exception this time.

P.S. How would you know what a well spoken guy sounds like?

 

____Reply to Hiptastic

I put UFOs in google and got a million hits. So UFOs are real? [/quote]

Of course, unidentified flying objects are real. They probably aren't from outer space, but they do fly, they are unidentified, and are objects. Say what you mean. That you got a "million hits," proves nothing. What is said in the various hits when analyzed may mean something.

If you had real evidence you'd show it, not tell people to google for it themselves.[/quote]

Are you afraid to let people research and then think for themselves? They can find many discussions by groups and of groups that support a North American Union. Thus, there is undoubtedly the idea of a North American Union. If you will read the names and affiliation of individuals supporting such an organization you will find a number of business (commercial and industrial) leaders favoring such an arrangement.

Do you really believe these multinational corporations' executives are wedded to a single nation? If so, you have very limited experience with businessmen.

I noticed your primary arguments are essentially efforts to have others prove your point by challenging their proof. I suspect you are a young man learning the tricks of debate. In time experience and knowledge will work much better for you as a means of discussion.

Why are you such a defender of the status quo? Haven't you noticed what this government is doing to the economy and to the principle of freedom, a major force in the founding and maintenance of this polity? As a supporter of the status quo you should be a defender of a free society.

 

If there is so much evidence for it, how come nobody here is producing any here? If people on the internet believe something is true, then it must be true? That's all you're saying here.

Name one business calling for a political merger of the US and Mexico.

Where did I say they were? Forget the straw man arguments, show me there is a real plan for an NAU.

Its quite simple. Someone says "X is true", and I say "can you show any proof X is true" and they provide nothing, but suggest I search for myself. And I am the one who needs to learn to debate?

If you make a claim, you should be prepared to back it up, not tell other people to back up your claim for you. You can't outsource your own argument to google.

No, you are just saying that everyone who doesn't believe in your conspiracy theory must love Bush and think everything is great. Conspiracy theorists tend to like vastly simplified versions of reality. Unfortunately, it isn't so.