Things that you believe exist, but there is no scientific proof for it

Seems legit.

 

On soul , astral body , ect. The basic idea is , while alive we each have 4 bodies , phyical , astral , energy , and higher self , or mental body .

 

A un-opened and drinkable can of watneys party seven

 

I can write a story about how we have 6 bodies or whatever. And if enough people believe that story, it will be accepted as 'fact' by a huge following. Because once people think it might be true, their brains will easily accept if for true, because it plays on their 'feelings'.

 

Some ghosts are people in there astral body , A post by me on another forum, based on a true story . http://halfway.oceanfalls.org/index.php?topic=2688.0

 

I have astral travelled since a young child. It scared the hell out of me for years, and have gone to some places that I don't want to discuss. When travelling, there is no sense of time, time does not exist, very hard to explain.

It took me until 45 to subdue it and stop it happening as it starts. I don't like the sensation.

 

Like I said before, I could write a story too. Anyone can make something like that up, although I do admit that many like to believe it's true and therefore accept it as truth.
I had an out of body experience myself, but I see it as a trick of the mind more than anything else.

 

If you saw your OBE as a trick of the mind, you didn't experience a true OBE. You would definitely know it is not a mind trick in amy way, shape or form. It is very real.

 

Are you sure that's not just vivid dreaming?

I ate some mushrooms the other night and astral traveled too.. but to me that was just my mind running free while I slept.

 

I can write a story about how we have 6 bodies or whatever. And if enough people believe that story, it will be accepted as 'fact' by a huge following. Because once people think it might be true, their brains will easily accept if for true, because it plays on their 'feelings'.

We do have 7 chakras http://www.aznewage.com/chakras.htm
Inca , you might want to join us on http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/

 

common sense

 

Oh it was very real at the time. I'd call it a metaphysical experience, since I was completely out of space and time. There was nothing and everything at once, the universe was and was not at once and I was and was not god. There was no deeper level of existance, this was at it's purest level. Still, in hindsight I think it was a trick of the mind, albeit a very intense, interesting and wonderful one.
And no, this did not happen because of drugs.

 

No drugs involved, definitely NOT dreaming. There is a huge difference between dreaming and a genuine OBE. I am not asleep when it happens.

 

Energy from crystals. Dunno what makes me feel that way, but I do.

 

That doesn't sound like an OBE to me at all - it sounds like exactly what you said, a mind thing.

 

I have a friend who works with crystals and stones and even though there is no real evidence for it, it's still always a nice feeling to enter his house. Even I, being the sceptic, can feel the positive energy in his house.

 

Thank you. I may do at some stage but I prefer not to discuss it, or discuss what I have seen. It has taken many years for me to block it to stop it - almost all my life, and I don't want it starting up again now I have it under control.

 

What makes you think you know better than me what it was?
You never felt what I felt, so just because I am not a believer you think my experiences are a mind thing and yours are true devine experiences?

 

This: >>>>There was nothing and everything at once, the universe was and was not at once and I was and was not god. There was no deeper level of existance, this was at it's purest level. <<<<

Specifically the God bit and the no deeper level - especially the no deeper level.

You also do not describe any sensations beforehand and you pass it off as mind. Trust me 100 percent you would definitely not be stating it is your mind. Never.

Yours was though by the sounds of it.

 

For the lack of a better description I wrote it down that way. As you probably know experiences like that can't really be described.
And just because I think it's the mind playing tricks and you don't doesn't mean your truth is more truer than my truth. Everybody is different and thus perceives things different, even if they have the same experience it can be perceived and interpreted differently. Your 'knowing' is not absolute.

Plus sensations beforehand are completely irrelevant. Maybe it works for you, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's the only way that works. It's the experience an sich that counts, not the things on the side.