They can't all be wrong, can they ???

PS: and england just made shit cars and had greedy unions. Thats why your car industry is shite

 

VG

Well Eisensulfid without the extra n comes up as iron sulphide?

So AGAIN what the fuck is ‘Eisensulfid neoliberalism’ ?

And AGAIN it still make me think that you haven’t a clue what neoliberalism is.

So AGAIN -

What are the basic tenets of neoliberalism?

 

Unfortunately I don't think he's going to give a direct answer to that, Balbus.

 

To repeat something you still haven’t addressed in any rational way

The average European migrant arriving in the UK in 2016 will contribute £78,000 more than they take out in public services and benefits over their time spent in the UK (assuming a balanced national budget), and the average non-European migrant will make a positive net contribution of £28,000 while living here. By comparison, the average UK citizen’s net lifetime contribution in this scenario is zero.[Oxford Economics]

LOL - And so your counter argument is still ‘belief’

You brought up the 9/11 thread not me and to repeat - The thing about conspiracy theories is that they are based on irrational belief not rational evidence.

They begin with the belief and then use supposition, speculation and innuendo to try and make things fit to that belief while ignore anything that runs counter to the belief.

What we are talking about is the allocation of resources and under neoliberal policies in real terms resources have been limited or pulled away from public service areas putting them under stress.

The thing is that many supporters of these neoliberal policies have blamed ‘migration’ because they don’t want people to realise that they are really to blame. You have just fallen for their con game.

 

Asmo

Well at least he googled neoliberalism I just don’t think he understood what was said.

 

VG

oh you reveal such in-depth knowledge and insight – again - LOL

 

Nah. It's cause they arbitrarily made the choice to drive on the left.

 

They had the same unions as Ford or GM at the time. In other words the make of cars all over Australia now. People are so loyal to Ford they will fight other car owners at car meets. I think you like your union motor down under. Europe was also buying lots of Ford and GM in the old days when the union demanded a man was paid $40 an hour (in 70's money).

That's a really outdated right wing view that unions are evil. I only owned one English car and it was nice if you got past the transmission issues. It was pretty parked. I think of them more as poor engineers that can design a pretty car.

 

Facepalm

Iron Sulfide - Fools Gold

 

So you are just going to keep doing that?

Already told you reporr is bullshit. 78,000 Calculated by the extra taxes they pay whilst on a work visa x the rest of their lives, if they were somehow going to stay on a work visa the rest of their lives. But you didnt actually read it before posting it, just read what was copied and pasted in the article

I will ask you a second time now; show us how they came up with the 78,000. Which I know you are not going to answer.

You have backed yourself into a corner on that one and just repeating 'not in a rational way' isnt any counter argument

Lets remind everyone why I brought up the 9/11 thread, I did so when I said your assertion that a quarter of the UK population using its infrastructure has nothing to do with the strain on that infrastructure.

And I said, that was the dumbest thing I have heard on this site, since I entered the 9/11 thread anyway

 

Bringing up Australia isnt the best example there. We dont make any cars here anymore, we import everything

So there arent any car manufacturing employees thus union that represent them.

Wasnt wholly the unions fault of course, but the end result is they dont even exist anymore so....

 

You buy Ford which has a union. If there was a plant in Australia they would get the same things Americans get.

 

Firstly- again just saying stuff like that isnt any counter argument.

Secondly - it is a simple as that though isnt it, which is why you dont have any counter argument

Germany and Japan kicked everyone else arse when it comes to making cars.

Name one world renowned British Car Manufacturer? Rolls Royce is the only one left, but they arent British anymore, BMW owns them. Ask yourself why that happened.

You cant just say "neoliberalism" for the hundreth time. An undefined ideology referring to goverment policies tending towards zero public ownership. Doesnt apply to industries already private competiting with each other

And you cant blame Thatcher, not that there are many people still alive that give a shit about what Thatcher did or didnt do.

Germany just made better cars more people wanted for decades.

England just made shit cars, Diesel Range Rovers made by British Leyland whose engines used to catch fire all the time, remember that, LOL

 

No, US has a higher average income, which is really just too much to do with your wealtheist 10%.

But we have a higher minimum wage. Something I agree with, and would be a left leaning policy I think you would agree.

An industry that is just not viable here. The 'if' in your question is the most important part - why arent there any plants in australia

 

American car: go fast in straight line, can't corner.
UK car: bzzzzz
Asian car: sewing machine engine
German car: nnnnnnneeeoooowwwwwwwwwwwwww

 

Why are you all talking about who makes the best cars?

 

Because none of us really give a shit about what 150 UK MPs and their 'peers' think

So why not talk about cars

 

I don't see any reason why you shouldn't talk about cars. I was just curious what caused it to begin. I don't want to go back and read through the whole thread.

 

Because Australians can't be trusted to assemble things? Its also far away from everything. A lot of trouble to get things in and out of the country. I don't know where Utes get assembled. That's an exclusively Australian market car. I would think they are close to home.

 

I doubt there is anything about the people or their intelligence that makes their cars better or worse. Sometimes things just don't work out.