There's a reason why the 9/11 conspiracy theories aren't going away

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Exar, Apr 2, 2008.

  1. BraveSirRubin

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    Matt's Pressed_Rat.


    I just admire a person with a cause, a person who tries to convay an altruistic message to the people. It's not like he's doing it for any personal benefit... many preachers do the same thing, but it's always so that they could go to heaven or something of the like... while Matt just does it, and doesn't really expect a repayment for it. I doubt that the free press is giving him any money for linking to them :).

    It could be a waste of time, but it's not more of a waste of time than everything else we seem to do in life.
     
  2. BraveSirRubin

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    I've never seen Matt try to assert his claims when they didn't fit in a discussion. He might go into a political thread and tell people that everyone's a puppet instead of discussing the candidate... but hell, I'd do the same thing.
     
  3. MollyBoston

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    You may think so, but some of us have much more important things to do. Like...like shrieking about blowjobs.
     
  4. BraveSirRubin

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    Yeah... In the Love & Sex forum where that kind of discussion will not only be accepted, but also appreciated.
     
  5. Piaf

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    Haha, Molly...Do we still do that ?
     
  6. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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    Agreed, 100%.

    But boy am I glad that I don't really care whether it was a conspracy or not.

    Facts: People died. The war is wrong. The media is controlled by a select few. The American government does whaever it wants. Most people don't care.

    I try to change what I can.
     
  7. MollyBoston

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    I was talking about Fitzy.
     
  8. Piaf

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  9. BraveSirRubin

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    Yeah, I don't particulary give that much of a shit either... but it's still nice to know that someone out there does. It's always beautiful to see someone full of idealism, even if it's completely misguided.

    I don't think that we can change anything, other than on a small local scale. That's the way to start, and if you manage to make things happen on a local scale, then branch off.

    I've been sleeping in a tent all of this week in the courtyard here in school. We're doing a social awareness project called "Tent State". It's a small project, but it really does get members of the community involved, people ask questios, and people learn.

    I find that to be a much more proficient way of educating the masses than posting on a forum. (Plus, we get to jam out with banjos and drums and stuff at night, which is great :)).

    ...point being, at least Matt focuses his energy on posting about something that he believes in instead of mindless dribble.
     
  10. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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    Sure. I agree with you about Pressed_Rat.

    I used to be always caught up in the 'big picture', full of anger and disillusionment with the state of the world. It left me exhausted and disappointed.

    I have since changed from macrocosm politics to microcosm education. Getting involved in the education system was one of the better decisions of my life. I still have to fight bureaucracy and government meddling but I at least have given myself the opportunity to actually do something, rather than complain.

    One of the realistic ways to true progression that I can see is more small-scale community projects. One feels more enabled to change things locally where the possibility of direct involvement and visible results are more probable. This is true people power, not democracy.

    BTW, the tent gig seems to encompass all of what I've been talking about.
     
  11. BraveSirRubin

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    Yeah, the tent gig is pretty much that. I really want to be a teacher... I'm in the teaching program in my university right now, but sadly I'll have to quit it since it's completely focused on teaching in Arkansas (The US education system is controlled by the individual states) and no where else. I would rather be shot dead than teach in Arkansas, so I think I might just get my ESL after I graduate (I'm an English major, an Honors minor, and possibly will get an Anthropology minor or major).

    But yeah, I really do want to get involved with the education system internationally. What you're doing right now is pretty much what I want to do in a couple of years. Anything I should know? Any certification I should get that could be useful?
     
  12. Duck

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    I was thinking about considering teaching myself.
    I really want to be a novelist, web designer, or self employed, but I need to set up my back up plan before I focus on self employment and can't afford any of the web designing programs around me at this time (loans/debt scare the shit out of me)
    So for now I'm headed to Community College for basic liberal arts until I figure out exactly what's goin on (and working on my web designing and writing skills on the side.)

    I figure if the novelist thing ever works out, I will be able to use my position and my art for good.
    And as a teacher I could teach my kids to think for themselves.

    And if I got very involved in education, I have a lot of ideas for education reform.
     
  13. BraveSirRubin

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    I also really want to write, yet sadly you cannot write for a living unless you reach the popularity of Stephen King or John Grisham (which means that your books must be total fucken mainstream shit to begin with).

    So yeah, teaching could really work out for you as a second profession, or web design if you're really good at it... lots of competition at that field.
     
  14. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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    If you are an English major with an ability to teach and plan lessons, an ESL certificate is a complete waste of time and money.
    They are mainly useful for people with no college degrees or people with absolutely no idea how to teach.
     
  15. BraveSirRubin

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    Seriously? I always figured that most school wouldn't hire you unless you had one.

    I'd rather teach in a private international school somewhere outside of America though... they'd probably require me to have the certificate.
     
  16. Duck

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    Eh, there are some really good writers that make a decent living through it.
    Typically, no matter what, it takes a lot of luck.
    It seems the best way to become a famous author is to catch the attention of the movie industry (Chuck Pahlaniuk), or to keep your book nice and controversial (Bret Easton Ellis).
    I personally, wouldn't force anything, but I tend to cause contreversy on accident lots in forums, so maybe that could help =P


    (PS when I say really good writers, I don't mean either of the two I've mentioned, though they both have done good works, I find both of them to be quite poor at narration and story telling.)
     
  17. Duck

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    My family friend and ex-Japanese teacher got a job in Japan as an English teacher and he didn't have any teaching credentials and knew very little Japanese.
    He saw an ad for it online and answered it. This was probably 15 years ago, but I'm just saying, sometimes you'd be surprised.
     
  18. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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    I haven't actually taught in many countries so I'm not completely sure. I think that the Arkansas teaching programme would be way more beneficial to you as a teacher than an ESL cert.

    I see them mainly as a racket, a sort of a private club set up to earn extra money for teachers who don't want to teach, to teach others how to be teachers. I have started one of these course in London and it was such a waste of time and money that I quit. They really do not teach you anything that a person of average intelligence(who has learned a second language), and has good people skills does not already know.
     
  19. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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    Speaking the native tongue is completely unrelated to the ability to teach English as a second language.
    What happens if you are teching 4 chinese kids, 2 Japanese, a Brazillian and a Scottish guy. You can't be expected to be able to speak 4 languages.:)

    If I was Pavel, I'd get involved in some after-school tutoring programme, maybe teach Spanish or Russian. Experience always counts for more than certification.
     
  20. badassdawickedmoose

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    Case in point... I come back to this thread to keep up with the discussion on the 9/11 issue.

    2 pages on and the subject is barely mentioned, let alone discussed.
     
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