There is no God

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Captain Cannabis, Nov 30, 2007.

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  1. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    Yes we are are God's children, that is what Christmas shows us Jesus was born to show us that if we follow Him we too can be part of God's family. Why should be just assume that we deserve to be part of God's family? He made us - should we not give Him thanks? Should we not believe in Him? Why should you just think that you have the power of Christ by not following His words, not thanking, loving, thinking of God?

    Say you ignore your best friend after they helped you soo much. You just shut them out even though they try to speak with you, don't talk to them, don't acknowledge them as your friend - Do you think that you deserve to use/ say anything they gave/ helped you with, do you think you deserve to call on them expecting forgivness and love after ignoring them?

    It is the same with God - all He asks is to know you and for you to acknowledge Him.

    So what, how does that prove that what is being taught isn't what happened? Do you think that if you witnessed the miracles that Jesus performed you would forget them? That is why the bible is said to be the word of God - they wouldn't have been chosen as Jesus' disciples for him to just leave them to pass on the word - He helped them write it - so yes it is accurate.
     
  2. slave

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    Yes he did so does the chrch theach us to do it or not, where was Jesus praying in chirch? And who is so stupid to send the other people in the hell only because they are other religion?That is the way people understand "the only way to the father is through Jesus" it is not that way, Jesus thougt of himself as he is us as he is love as we all are.He interdused to praying in that way because he whanted to tell them who are we (our Father) so we are all sons of god.Do you love your enemy?Do you forgive others?Do you think that you need confession to show god that you regreat?
     
  3. slave

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    I don't want to chane anyone's opinion I just want to descuse abouth that thing and learn more if someone prove me he is right I'll change my opinion.
     
  4. acga5

    acga5 Senior Member

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    how can someone prove anything? everything anyone knows is based on their experiences which cannot be proven they simply choose to believe in it, and even if they were to attempt to translate their experiences to you through words you would never truly be able to understand what they experienced, so asking someone to prove something to you is kind of futile
     
  5. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    Again you don't make much sense! So you are saying that when Jesus said He is the truth the way and the life, the only way to the Father is through me - He didn't actually mean it?

    He did not introduce prayer! Prayer is another way to say 'talking to God' Do you just think that God turned up the same time as Jesus?!

    I try and follow the word of God, but yes I make mistakes - I am only human. Also I am not catholic so don't do confession! I know what I have/ do wrong and I tell God that - as Jesus said we should.

    How much do you actually know about Christianity and the Bible? It seems that you don't really know much!

    Oh and calling God stupid - great way to make peace!
     
  6. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    Thats the point of faith though isn't it? God cannot be physically proven, but it can be said that a hunch of some sort brings religious people together. A hunch that there is something bigger. Faith!
     
  7. slave

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    Maybe, but you can have discution it's good to have it.
     
  8. slave

    slave Member

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    I ment instructed not interdused bad english I'm from Macedonia :) You don't have to be catolic also the orthodocks chirch have confesion.I didn't called god stupid I asked WHO is so ... And I do knew abouth the bible I was Christian before not to long. My mother was comunist but she was christian also so I was till I saw what is the thrught, I love Jesus I love God. I'm against chirch as institution because is wrong.
     
  9. Bl4ck3n3D

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    Than next time don't state your reality as truth. I don't care if you think there's nothing after death. But don't try and state it as fact.
     
  10. slave

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    I do pray Man and I pray to "God apsolut spirit of Love,Jesus and Buda spiritual leaders"But praying in chirch WHY? isn't God everywhere?
     
  11. Bl4ck3n3D

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    Except, WE ARE GOD, we are our own creators. We are our own family, we need to start paying attention to ourselves first, that's the way to reach your so called "heaven". I am not saying we are greater than God(cause we are God) or that we should ignore God, but if you really want to thank God, than we need to do it by taking care of our family. Somewhere down the line, we as humans forgot our true origins and higher-selves.

    In regards to the bible: So are you telling me that over these past 2000 years, no one has edited the bible for their own selfish/personal reasons?

    What about the errors in mistranslations? Like the number of the beast actually being 616 and not 666?

    Haha, funny thing, my name comes out to 6 - 1 - 6 using the ancient gemetria code.
     
  12. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    We are not God, we might like to think we are but we are not. My ''so-called heaven" is not reached by thinking about myself. You really haven't grasped the Christian faith!

    Are you implying that people who thank God by praying or whatever do not look after their family? Have you ever been to church? It's like your arguement is based on whatever pops into your head!
     
  13. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Faith indicates blindness.

    If you're blind, you must rely and trust others to point you in the right direction. You take their arm, and put faith in they will do right by you. But because of your blindness, you yourself can't really tell if they do or not. As long as you have a sense of security, you're not likely to challenge those who guide you.

    Sometimes, it takes an outsider to make you aware that you're being mislead.

    I don't want people to have faith in what I say. I want you to learn how to see for yourself. I want to cure the blind so that others will no longer take advantage of you in your weakened condition.

    I want you to see yourself as I see you. Beautiful. Radiant. Powerful.

    Not beggars at your own table like you are now.



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  14. Bl4ck3n3D

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    I never said that. Maybe if you used your comprehension skills a little better, you'd be able to understand my post. When I said family, I meant EVERYONE on this earth. One big family. I do nothing but selfless service. So don't even go there.

    Geeze, you sure do jump on assumptions alot. I can tell you get emotional over this.

    And yes, we are God. I never once said think only of yourself, what I meant was to think about every individual here on this earth.

    Earth was meant to be paradise, like it was in the Garden of Eden. We have long gone down the wrong path since. So to think that everything's going to be better when you die (which most christians believe), is a false truth. You only further entrap yourself on this material plane.
     
  15. Bl4ck3n3D

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    Yes, and the only way you can do that is through yourself. No one else can make you, only help guide you.

    That is what Jesus meant when he said the only way to the father is through me. It is through the individual.
     
  16. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    Of course comprehension would have made that make sense! It's like if I said I love my man, but actually meant every man on the planet!!

    You said thatif you really want to thank God, than we need to do it by taking care of our family - implying that the 'family' is not being taken care at the moment, read it again and you mihght see!

    We are not God.

    The point of the story of Eden is that They gave into temptation, just like we do today - money, sex, drugs whatever it may be.

    All Christians believe that heaven is the true world which awaits us when we die, how does that entrap ourselves? Who are we to say that this is all there is? Like I said before - we will only know for sure what awaits us when we die when we actually die.

    You do become very defensive about this don't you. I am not emotional - I know what I believe, you and all those on here who slag of Christians won't change my mind! It's just sad.
     
  17. Moon_Beam

    Moon_Beam zaboravljas

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    What is wrong with relying on something? This world can be crap alot of the time and if you have to work it all out on your own it would become very lonely.

    That's what is different between you and Jesus - I wouldn't worship a friend, I would love them, but not worship them! Saying that if you began to cure the sick, wake the dead, heal the blind then maybe that would change!

    I do see myself like that - how does having faith change that. It gives me strength to do better.

    So faith is very importnat in life, be it God, or something else - otherwise it is a very sad world. "In a world that gives you nothing, we all need something to believe in" - great song!
     
  18. slave

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    The family of god it meens that we are all family of god. Your anger prove you are blind man, you should not think that there is Garden of eaden, think abouth.Noone is trying to change your opinion, I try to tell you my opinion and to discuse abouth it, I may learn something, you may lear something, this prove that your mind is not free.
     
  19. slave

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    You shouldn't worship Jesus or god you should love them as you love yourself.
     
  20. Moon_Beam

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    why should I not think there is a garden of Eden? I know what the family of God means - if the read the previous post you will see he didn't say family of God! I am not blind, i see clearly (well apart from being short sighted!!) I use the bible to guide me in life to be a good person - last i heard that's not a terrible thing! This world can be a horrible place, believing in a loving Father is not the worst you can do! You say I am blind, I say atheists are blind!
     
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