The word 'unemployed' is discriminatory

Good response (why did it take 2 pages?).

I would only point out that what you're saying applies to racism too. Calling someone black or white doesn't define them, but is considered discriminatory. People will say they can't choose their colour, but neither can we choose to be unemployed. Discrimination against religion is also considered wrong, but not discrimination against employment.

 

I don't really know of anyone who gets offended from being called black or white. I don't view either of these as derogatory terms. Useless, outdated terms, especially considering how intermingled the races are these days..yes. But derogatory, no.

 

Look up hate crime. Bullying, verbal abuse or insults based on race. If you did the same based on employment status that would not be illegal. It matters not whether someone would be offended or not.

 

The term "unemployed" often mean involuntarily unemployed. (See: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/unemployed).

Especially in terms of numbers from the government. Unemployment rates are the percent of people in the workforce who are without a job. So, it's people who want to be employed.

Also, you can't get unemployment benefits unless you had a job and lost it involuntarily.

Obviously it also means simply not having a job too....but maybe the way that it's used in some cases might not be as discriminatory.

 

So....

same as with race, if someone's skin is green, you call them green... if they don't have a job, they're unemployed... they could be unemployed and a millionare, there's a millionare hobo in my town....

There's nothing wrong with unemployed, it usually means you WANT work and can't get it, as clever-name said, which does NOT make you out to be useless and lazy or anything.

Unemployment rates are generally a statistic against corporations, government, etc. It's frequently not the unemployeds fault, and their fault or NOT, I don't see how it's bad to talk about. Some people are one colour, some are another. Some have a job, some don't. If you think talking about the way things are is discrimination, you've been brainwashed by those losers who choose the "left" because they wanted to be on the right, but couldn't keep up.... our consciousness revolves heavily around labeling thing for the purpose of understanding them. There's nothing wrong with that, it's a large part of what let us be anywhere NEAR as successful as we are.

Next, can we not say "big" or "little"?

To discriminate is to see a difference. There is a difference, and seeing it is not wrong. Acting unfairly because of a difference is "discrimination" in the legal and ethical sense that it's usually used today.

 

So there's nothing wrong with saying "all fuckin' blacks are lazy and steal"? Yet I say the same thing with unemployed people it's no problem.

 

There's something wrong with that, because that's not true.

If I said "all blacks are black", or "all unemployed people are unemployed", or "all people have heads", it would be true. Discrimination in the illegal sense is FALSE discrimination, that is discriminating differences that don't matter, and giving them meaning in a vicious way.

If you want to call me unemployed, go right ahead, I don't have a job. If you want to call me white, go ahead, I'm pale. Now to draw a connection between those, and say that I'm unemployed because I'm white, would be "discrimination".

"discrimination" as it's usually spoken about in the USA means acting as though those of a different skin colour (generally black) are inferior, when in reality the only difference is skin colour. It means you should take peoples real merits into account (ie, if they're employed in a manner gainful to them and society at large, if they're rude and assuming, if they're sweet and helpful, whatever) when judging them. If you're mean to a black man because he's a jerk to you, I could care less. But if it's because he's black, THAT is discriminating based on race, and I wouldn't like you.

Wimps took the "discrimination" tag and ran with it to mean anything they didn't like. But it means discriminating where no fair discrimination can be made.

If you don't get a job, you're unemployed. The only way to change this is to start removing meanings, ideas, and words from circulation, as in "Nineteen eighty-four: a novel".

And while you're at it, I think people with eyes and ears are guilty of discrimination, because they can see and hear you being unemployed, they KNOW it, and as such they're.... Oh wait............... Yeah, you're pretty much saying that human life is discriminatory by nature, so I guess we better fix that and end human life.

Yes, I had quite a rant saved up.

 

Soooo--

Ya wanna start calling them "Spare Timers"?

 

Well. That would imply that life is divided into two parts - work time and spare time. Is this dualism your view of life? Does it bring out the richness and diversity of worldly existence?

 

Don't worry about the term being negative. If you factor in those that have given up looking for work, we're already at 22% unemployment. By this time next year, that figure will be around 30%. So soon it's just going to be a matter of fact

 

we spend too much time defining people by who employs them!

and not enough time defining them by who they really are!

I wish I was unemployed, I could do what I really want to do!

work... lol

 

Because the REAL new world order plan is to create a new low class composed of all the rest of the classes except the very rich, where people clamor for jobs and get nothing. And there will be no change in world leadership, no death camps, nothing sinister....

And then it will be their fault, for being in that low class, so they won't deserve the hand up out of it. So the rich will keep getting richer and the poor will keep getting poorer.

 

Lols!

 

fucking lazy does it well enough for me.

 

I'm fucking lazy err unemployed myself and I still like this one.

But it's not fair to fucking lazy workers, like state-road workers or government officials.

 

This guy's fuckin right - Again. Fuck all these conspiracy theories about lizards or the illuminati or what... The real truth is, there's a cabal of very shot-sighted, power-crazed people who'll accomplish what they want with our consent.

What was that Sinclair Lewis quote about when fascism comes to America?

Well, it's never felt more pertinant, and not just in America.

 

Work and employment are totally different. Work is an exertion of force. As I see it, employment generally refers to a specific task or set of tasks of which you are expected to complete as part of a trade for something (usually money, but I guess if you think of cooking breakfast for your wife as a guaranteed exchange for sex/ companionship/ whatever, then maybe she employs you, but I don't think most people would define that as employment). So, if you haven't entered into any "legal" agreement to do service in exchange for goods, then yeah, you're unemployed.

 

sooo if we aren't calling people "unemployed" are we calling them bums? I vote for bums

 

Would that be like...Laidless??

 

fucking frustrating as I am