the very first need in the life of everyone

" A person's actions is what makes them who they are."

Here you are unable or incapable to even accept a lousy "cyber hug." Instead, you're busy trying to find reasons to hate someone or something. You seem like a nice enough guy but allow me to pose the question about what this says about you? I understand that the Internet is not "real". But how much of the virtual you transcends into the "real you?"

And has it gotten this bad that we as a species have to dig in a type of "shit" to find one right-souding-exception in order to justify for continuance of fear? I sincerly hope not.

Love is either 100% or it's not love. You can not love one man and hate another. You can't walk around life choosing to love one thing because it's convienant for you and hate another because it's too difficult for you. And no one is claiming you need to be stuipd or blind to injustices and suffering.

The definition of insanity is not doing the
same thing over and over again.
It's doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
a different result each time.

We have been doing this cycle of "Love one but not the other" and "hurt me and I'll hurt you" for thousands of years and it doesn't work. Nothing appears to get any better for anyone, save for those few that find ways to profit from the violence, fear and hate.

So let me say it clearly plainly that this shit has got to end.

We are either animals with atomic bombs and screwing over 3rd world nations for cheap Gucci bags, that have decided to live by the law of the jungle. Or, we're going to try and be more than the sum of our parts. Put meaning into the word "humanity."

Therefore unless we can come up with a better solution to this never-ending-cycle of whack-whack and smack-smack. Why not try the love approach?

And if it fails,
We can go back to carrying clubs and finding reasons to use them.


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Go back and answer the same question I asked the OP.

The problem is that we have allowed predators to live amongst us and be accepted and loved while attacking those who speak out agains them as being the ones in the wrong.

This leads to people NOT speaking up agains these types of actions until they become commonplace in the world as they are.

When we stop accepting actions that harm us and those we love, then the world will be a better place.

Be the change the you wish to see in the world is not a set of meaningless words.

 

Agreed. I want to see a world filled with love and compassion.

Therefore, I love you and I think you're a beautiful humanbeing.

But to answer your question, lets just say that if Eisenhower or Nixon was alive today and standing in front of me. I would still hug them and say I love you. Afterall, shooting either of them in the head would be a coward's way to solve the problem. So now you can consider your question answered. You can hate me all you want, but I'm going to keep sending love energy at the man called Tom from Canada.

 

i am making the world the world a better place and i am positive. it´s just love! which part of my love don´t you like¿

 

And both of you continue to avoid answering my question.

 

I agree, it's only possible to love everyone if you never have to meet them in person.

 

I've answered your question. You're just not getting the answer you want.

 

No, you haven't.

 

You have dug in the proverbial garbage bin to find a right-souding-exception that is sufficiently inflammatory in an attempt to win a sterile debate not based on reason or logic but on the grounds of emotional provocation. You're trying to appeal to a puerile and base mentality in order to elicit popular support for your paradigm.

So allow me to state that I'm a father and a grandfather and possibly a soon to be great-grandfather.
I have taught my children many things in life and I'm happy to say that they are well adjusted and very loving adults. In return they have also produced very well adjusted and loving children of their own. If for but by my life experience alone, I know how to approach child rearing in a loving positive manner. And I would (have) approach(ed) all parental problems and situations in similar facet.

Therefore I have answered your question but not in the way you are seeking. Because I'm not coming down to your level. So if you want to have a debate with me on this subject, then you will have to come up to mine. Or otherwise as far as I'm concerned, this conversation is over.

But regardless of what you decide to do, I'm still going to send positive love energy thoughts towards you and you can choose to accept them or not.

 

Unconditional love doesn't hurt children.

Nevertheless, I hope you're receiving help and I apologize for touching upon a sensitive issue in your life. But sadly, you're filled with rage and I'm not able to supply you with the type of justifications your requesting from me. Revenge does not heal but retribution and closure will both redeem and heal.

Sadly, the Internet is not a substitute for doctor and a virtual hug or friend is never going to replace the real thing.


Keep the faith and hopefully you get enough love in your life that it leads you to a place peace.

 

Unconditional love does hurt children... That is not conjecture, that is not theory, that is someone who was hurt (badly) as a child by that very concept.

Because of people like you, who wish to ignore reality and pretend it doesn't matter...

So back to reality...

If you had a child, and someone molested that child, would you extend love to that person?

If you say yes you would, I will then want to know just how it is that you think that is going to show your child that you love them, and what it is going to do to their view of the world, that their parent, feels about them, the same way they do about their abuser...

You say you seek truth...

It is in these very issues that the truth is most apparent....

 

You need your rage/hate it is a part of you if you deal with it or not it is there is up to you.Now i get it that you love love if that does not sound weird.But you cant just turn your back to that part of yourself.You should look into a book called The dark side of the light chasers.

 

Oh, and as for this... I have lots of love in my life... love that is based on people caring and respecting me, the way I care for and respect them.

Nothing unconditional about it, and there never will be... If the person I loved most in my life besides my daughter were to harm my daughter, my love for that person would instantly disappear.

If anyone does anything to harm someone I care about, I will not extend love that person nor will they ever be forgiven...

And none of this hinders my ability to love fully and with a passion that anyone who thinks love is unconditional will never understand.

 

I'm not a doctor or even remotely qualified to be a mental health worker. But I have delt with a lot of divorce cases and by defacto, interfaced with a few specialists.

From what I understand, everyone is entitled to be angry. But the objective is to learn to deal with or let go of the anger. Otherwise, in the long term it tends to do just as much damage as the origional abuse. Perhaps thats the reason why a child abuser was once themself, abused as a child. Being that of the expression, "becoming what you hate the most. "

Perhaps the best example of my stand on this issue is based on the incidents surrounding a woman I had represented more than 25 years ago. She was being physically and emotionally abused by her husband. There was no doubt in anyone's mind about how bad she suffered. Without going into details, before any paperwork could be filed, she stabbed her husband. And an easy divorce turned into an attempted murder.

As for me, I have always blamed my father for the deaths of my brothers. And I went almost a decade without speaking to him. But at some point, myself being a parent, I looked at my son and understood that I had to forgive my father. Not for his benefit but for my own and to set an example to my children. If they didn't see me forgive him, they might never forgive any of my transgressions.

In life we get to choose our friends but we don't get to choose our families. So much can happen within the family microcosm. A father might say or do something that causes great pain and suffering to a child or the child might do similar to the parent. At some point, someone has to move beyond the anger in order to allow the healing process to begin. And the only person capable of doing that is the one that was hurt.

 

You just refuse to grasp it... That is your CHOICE.. be very clear about that.

I have nothing to heal from over my past... I do not have unfocused or bottled up anger...

I have dealt and deal with my issues that come up from it by speaking out (and taking action) against it, and making it clear why these things happen.

So that others can stop it from happening... Granting unconditional love to everyone is part of the problem.

People have to understand that allowing or accepting this type of behavior and making allowances for it (its not their fault that the way they were raised), is encouraging it to continue on.

Look at the threads here where people (under false names) talk openly about how misunderstood they are and that what they do to children is love and caring...

When people see those threads, and see everyone else saying stupid shit that doesn't make it clear that what they are doing ISN'T love and definitely is NOT acceptable, it causes confusion.... especially in people who grew up being abused and are at that point where they either choose to continue the cycle, or stop it dead...

If they are supposed to love everyone unconditionally, that means they should love the person who molested them as a child... If they love the person who molested them, then obviously its okay for them to molest other children, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT LOVE IS TO THEM...

Unconditionaly love, is permission to do anything you want, with no consequences emotionally....

 

Sorry had too...

 

i am happy to be happy!!!!! <3 <3 <3

 

As a natural cynic I usually am suspicious and mistrustful of those that are too peace, love and mung beans.

And everyone I've encountered in real life like that, turns out to be full of shit when put to the test.

 

We are all humans and therefore, prone to failures. But just like metal, if you tax it too much it will ultimately fail.

It's ok to push things to their breaking point. But try to not to go past that when you're testing others. And remember that flaws might make one man's breaking point a little less than the next persons.

And on that note, you might want to test yourself a little. Because letting others love you can jump start your hart, but in the end it comes down to needing to love yourself unconditionally.

 

So, Ted Bundy should love himself should he?