When I went to Mecca Tom crossed my mind, yeah, he doesn't know Mecca or the true Islam, Mecca is the place where I fond the best food for my soul there, wow, I miss you Mecca, So, Tom here are some f my love spears ''we all do mistakes'' Matthew 5.44:… Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. Matthew 18.21: Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
drumminmama Let's give him another chance =) OK Folks, let's wage our war, it is our turn, let's infect the people with love's infection, 3,2,1 Go ''may Allah be with you'' Amen. we should win the war.shower them with love's spears Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Thank You CatStevens. You have been the final proof I needed that the Islamic world knows the rest of the world is better, more advanced and holds more effective truths than it has. Why would I say that? Because people like you and Al Jazeera repeatedly and without rest hold the Western World to a HIGHER STANDARD. Yes. While I can find outrageous comments day after day after day by a never-ending list of Imans, Pundits, Islamic Polititicians calling for the wildest and craziest ideas.. from nuking Israel to subjegating all the world to Islam... The List would be too long to reprint! But Should one silly and unknown politician in one small part of the USA make one silly and outrageous comment... LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!! Shouts the Al Jazeera. LOOK AT THAT MISTAKE! So now our sins are cancelled and debt is owed! Repeat this statement over and over across the Middle East and we have caught a comment that proves how we are victims of the West. AhA! They have made an Error!!!!!!!! (cries the Muslim Clerics) This can only mean one thing - The West is held to a much higher standard simply because it IS a higher standard. Do you know what is funny after all? This politician sounds like he is making a 'hypothetical' question which is not meant to be taken as a 'real' plan of any sorts. He is responding to these fanatics who believe that if Allah allows Israel to be Nuked then this makes it 'Allahs Will'. (if that is not your belief then he is not talking to you) With this comment he is really turning it around on the Fanatics (mainly Iran) by saying that we could be just as outrageous and bomb Mecca and would this prove that Allah has failed or does not exist? Would this prove that Allah is not worth worshipping? Of course its not meant to be a 'real suggestion' but its using the 'same flawed mentality' and asking if it would work the other way. So, if you can understand this - the statement is MEANT to have people like you say "thats crazy!" Good! Thats exactly right and that is the same crazy thinking that the first hypothetical madman would be using to Nuke Israel. The funny thing is that neither you or Al Jazeera could stop for a minute to try and understand what was being said. The FIRST THING and the ONLY thing you were able to do was read the words 'bomb Mecca' and you grabbed it like a Golden Prize to be held up as more 'proof' that Islam is being 'victimised' by someone. Bullshit! The sad thing in all this - Israel will be attacked by the Islam world around it. Why? Because you need to know for once and for all if the Bible is Corrupted and when Tel Aviv is destroyed this will prove that Allah is real, Muhammed was right and the People of the Book were wrong. Horrible. No silly American politician making flippant comments on a radio show will be required for this. Maybe used as the excuse but not required at all.
Erasmus70 Mmm, let me guess, maybe because you're still angry with some of my threads which hold harsh truths. That is you and Bush are from the same sect probably ROFL HaaHaaaHaa Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Erasmus70 What the bible says (prophesies) about the Jews or Israel? Post 29 Post 62 Post 18 Jeremiah8. 4-8:1 " 'At that time, declares the LORD, the bones of the kings and officials of Judah, the bones of the priests and prophets, and the bones of the people of Jerusalem will be removed from their graves. 2 They will be exposed to the sun and the moon and all the stars of the heavens, which they have loved and served and which they have followed and consulted and worshiped. They will not be gathered up or buried, but will be like refuse lying on the ground. 3 Wherever I banish them, all the survivors of this evil nationè (who is this evil nation?) will prefer death to life, declares the LORD Almighty.' 4 "Say to them, 'this is what the LORD says:" 'When men fall down, do they not get up? When a man turns away, does he not return? 5 Why then have these people turned away?Why does Jerusalem always turn away? They cling to deceit; they refuse to return.6 I have listened attentively, but they do not say what is right. No one repents of his wickedness, saying, "What have I done?" Each pursues his own course like a horse charging into battle. 7Even the stork in the sky knows her appointed seasons, and the dove, the swift and the thrush observe the time of their migration. But my people do not know the requirements of the LORD. 8 " 'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?9 The wise will be put to shame; they will be dismayed and trapped. Since they have rejected the word of the LORD, what kind of wisdom do they have? *Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah* Matthew; 21: 43:Therefore say I unto you, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nationè(who is this nation?)bringing forth the fruits thereof. *Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah* John 4.21-34:(Jesus) saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Fatherè (see he said father not the son who you are worshipping?). Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worshipè you are worshipping Mithra the sun God… and now is, when thetrue worshippersè(who are they?)shall worship the Fatherè not the son! In spirit and in truth:for the Father seeketh such to worship him. *Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah* Jeremiah6. 10: To whom can I speak and give warning? Who will listen to me? Their ears are closed so they cannot hear. The word of the LORD is offensive to them; they find no pleasure in it. *Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah* Jeremiah14.14 Then the LORD said to me, "The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusionsof their own minds.15 Therefore, this is what the LORD says about the prophets who are prophesying in my name: I did not send them *Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah* Jeremiah23.36 But you must not mention 'the oracle of the LORD ' again, because every man's own word becomes his oracle and so you distort the words of the living God, the LORD Almighty, our God.*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah*Allah* Quraan: Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say, ''This is from Allah'' …Woe to them for what their hands have written Quraan: … Then do you believe in a part of the Scripture and reject the rest? Deuteronomy 5.1, 6.4:And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them. Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart…And it shall be, when the LORD thy God shall have brought thee into the land which he sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give thee great and goodly cities, which thou buildedst not, And houses full of all good things, which thou filledst not, and wells digged, which thou diggedst not, vineyards and olive trees, which thou plantedst not; when thou shalt have eaten and be full; Then beware lest thou forget the LORD è if they didn't respect God as you said, they profaned his name then this land will be taken away from their!, which brought thee forth out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name. Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you;… lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.è Now do you think that he will destroy we who are respecting and worshipping him alone, would he destroy our army or the Jews? Was that a corruption in that verse regarding the army which will be destroyed or it indicates that there will be many of martyrs but some corruption sneaked into that verse and the verb wasn't destroy?Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.Ye shall diligently keep the commandments of the LORD your God, and his testimonies, and his statutes, which he hath commanded thee.èWhat did Paul said about the law? And thou shalt do that which is right and good in the sight of the LORDè not in the sight of Paul??? that it may be well with thee è so God with those who are following him? and that thou mayest go in and possess the good land which the LORD sware unto thy fathersè so this land is for them as long as they will obey and follow the God! But they aren't as you yourself believe, so the land will be given to whom then...And it shall be our righteousness, IF we observe to do all these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath commanded us...Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant And the mercy which he sware unto thy fathers:è and if they will not keep it then do you think that God will keep the land for them? And he will love thee, and bless thee... Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Erasmus70 Dear who began? Who stated we will Nuke Iran? Why the Iranians stated such things? If you want to turn your other tunic, then that's up to you. I think I should write a thread regarding this. However, I already gave the permission for the soldiers to wage the war, go there, go to the battleground. Tell me if you need more ammunitions. For more information about the war please click here post 22 and post 20 or read the posts from 20 to 23 Yours Sincerely, Commander in chief Army Commander Cat Stevens
Regarding building the Kaba by Abraham and Ishmael, I may write a thread regarding this issue oneday.By the way dear soldiers click Here Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Cat Stevens.... You skipped the main point: <-- This is the reason for the statements you spoke about earlier.
give the majority of the world what they want then ..stop bush and his boys, and if you're incapable or unwillin to stop your bad seeds (that have and are attackin not groups, but 100s of 1000s of humans), then you must accept the consequences of choosin to protect your bad seeds and you are indeed protectin a serial rapist ..who's rapin the middle eastern lands and its peoples!
There is far too much racist conservative islamophobic rhetoric here. I didnt expect to find it here, but it sufficiently scares me.
First of all, I am so happy to see Muslim members in this thread, thank you dudes =), love you stoney69 Thumps up dude, may Allah bless you, and bless your tongue, Amen. Phrensied Rabbits =) EwokUtopia Don't worry dude, I believe that they are kind hearted in their deep, you know Islam is the most misunderstood religion I think, so it is our duty to clarify, right, but it is not our fault only, because it is so stupid to believe whatever has been said in the media or wherever =) ~~~~ May Allah bless you all my dear brothers and sisters in your every step, Amen. Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Don't associate my actions with Bush's actions. I am not him. I prefer to let God handle disputes, for only in this way will violence (of men (and women) against men and women) end.
Listen, let's disassociate the one thing from another. I've heard all kinds of ignorance coming from people here about the reason why gas is so expensive is that the "ragheads" have cars made of solid silver. (I saw a posting on this where someone found a photo of some Arab men, complete with head dresses (I don't know what those are called) were gathered around a car that had been painted with chrome) I'm sure that those in charge in Saudi Arabia, worried now that a whole host of former "princes" are now working in hotels and what have you and are thinking about beheading the powers that be - are pointing them at the Americans and saying "by Allah it is their fault". But I really don't think the calls to behead Salman Rushdie or the publisher of a Danish newspaper have anything to do with geopolitics in the Gulf.
Well, let me put it this way I want to PUBLICLY thank catstevens for setting me to rights about some stuff about Islam. However That doesn't change the fact that some Lebanese nutcase tried to disembowel me with a screwdriver in high school cause he thought I was gay. These folks didn't come up with the idea of strapping bombs to themselves or idolising mass murderers in isolation.