How convenient, no need to provide proof. You guys ever feel like we give authority way, way too much credit. We always assume we're hearing the truth, and all too often, years later we find out how gullible we were. The Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, The Gulf of Tonkin... All admitted to, all aimed at provoking a response from the public. Instilling fear or rallying support for a war has been an essential element of every expansive empire ever established. This guy has a fucking brain on him. He details a number of false flags here and provides a LOT of evidence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_gj1uZ6194
I thought they fed the fish....but his body may have been poisonous....polluting those waters. they don't know better? ok, enuf of my sarcasm for the day.
Hold up let me see if I can request tomorrow off of work so I cant watch this one hour and fourty two minute youtube video.
Skim it if you like, I do that a lot. All you really need to know is there have been many events, which the public totally bought, that were actually orchestrated for a specific purpose. Often times they are hoaxes in which people are said to have been harmed or killed, but they turn out to be drills. With massive events like 9/11, there were obviously real casualties, but often the case is that the mass media feeds the sheeplike public the story with no proof, and the sheeplike public opens wide and eats the story. It puts skeptical people in an awkward position where everything must be questioned. The Oklahoma City bombing was certainly staged, the Sandy Hook story is extreeeemely fishy, and I'm not going to accept the Charleston story without question. I don't own a gun, I'm not crazy about guns, but I do think a great many powerful people in the US don't like so many people exercising their 2nd amendment right. I think there are people who are determined to militarize the police and eager to disarm the populace as much as possible. What do you guys think?
Kinda like the moon landing. Which I have read that Russia now wants a full investigation into it. good on them.
of course we give authority too much credit. the only reason we need it is our own lack of universally mutual consideration. even need might not be quite the right word for it. its something we've allowed ourselves to become comfortably familiar with. its mostly nonsense unless its keeping you from starving, freezing, or someone from beating you over the head. it can earn its keep, but there are a lot of people who seem to think there's some potential advantage in not permitting it to do so. as for ben lauden, yes of course he was a hired sub contractor. who stood to loose more from world peace? islamic (AND "christian", and possibly several other kinds and flavors of) extremists, or the top 'leadership' of american republicans? well actually that might be pretty much equal.
I always said it never happened ! And have been slagged off loads of times for saying it but summat dont ring true here
Yeah. Same. I don't have any proof or nothing and I really don't have an opinion on the other moon landings, but I don't believe they made the first one. That's just personal choice and I think it stems from childhood tbh. My granddaddy always said there was no way t happened. I grew up with that attitude too. my folks though "I remember watching that on tv" they believe it happened. I just look at the footage you know, WW1 footage is better than the moon landin and what's that 50-60 year gap? I can't fathom that visual technology could have gotten so bad, all the footage shows is a few men bouncing around. And when that footage is shown in faster motion, it really is a few men doing their thing. Slow it down and all of a sudden they're "floating". The flag looks fake as hell too. I don't care about motion of the flag or what the conspiracy people say about no air on the moon or whatever, but the whole thing looks staged to me. Everything about it. So I can't conform and believe just because the majority does. I don't play those games. I actually find it amusing that the masses so blindly believe what the government agency space programs actually tell them, but the news? All lies, don't believe it. When it comes to the unthinkable it's like a brand new movie. Shit that's cool, must be real. -rolls eyes- And yes, yes I tend to cop the flak for it as well but you know what? It keeps stuff interesting. Though it has strained a few Internet friendships I do or did have. My daddy would tell me "well, they don't really sound like friends then". Perhaps that is true. who gets buttrhurt over that anyway. Name and shame? :d
Couldnt care less what they did with Bin Ladens body, he was given too much attention in the first place
I rarely assume I'm hearing the truth. In fact, my default mentality is to assume they are lying until I convince myself otherwise....which isn't very often. But I agree....many people are just cruising through life, going to baseball games, eating hot dogs and waving flags at parades with the belief that they have any real clue as to what's really happening around them. I'm not even saying I blame them. It may seem too complicated to figure out or maybe they just don't want to know. Maybe they don't care. Maybe in many cases, people are just too busy with their own problems to pay very much attention to something they don't think they can change anyway. And you know what? They're right. They aren't going to change a thing so if they have a limited amount of mental energy to expend, they may as well use it to figure out how they are going to fix their car to get to work next week...or how they're going to find money to pay bills, etc. As far as Bin Laden....who knows? I wouldn't be surprised if he's still alive and the whole raid was staged. But I do know one thing....I think the "official" story....from beginning to end is pure bullshit.
As wizardofodd has basically just said its not organized conspiracies anything planned that does it. Its really the sum total of apathy of the general population, and i'd include myself when it comes to terrorism matters. Who gives a fuck what their stupid cause is, I just dont want to end up in a thousand little pieces on the way to work Really, how does the Patriot Act impact in any way on 99% of the American population And relatively speaking, since we are talking about the US, how many kids each year try to cross the southern borders every year, by themselves, no one gives a shit about, but we are supposed to care the CIA went to far with a bunch of thugs that already killed many of their own people and probably would have killed more on your soil
I would say that it affects all of us quite a bit...even people in other countries. It may not seem to affect most law-abiding citizens on a daily basis but it's clearly a major transfer of power. The gov't no longer works for us. In fact, they haven't for a long time but now they barely even bother maintaining the facade that they even give a shit at all about the average person. The Patriot Act gave the gov't powers that the average person never would have agreed to had they known in advance AND understood what was at stake. For instance....the last three paragraphs that I typed and just deleted can easily be retrieved even though I never actually posted (or "said) them. Some people are worried about this nonsense about microchips in humans, etc. They don't really need that to track you with chips. In America, we just slip on the tracking device and let it follow us every single place we go. That's just one way the Patriot Act matters but most Americans just wave that flag, eat some fast food and hit the beach. Edit to say....I do not think it's a single organized effort. It's a collective of efforts acting in different interests. Edited again to say...if you think the gov't has tracking abilities....the gov't would stand in awe of what corps. can legally do and the info they have.
NSA / gnomeland security isnt doing it job when some fucking punk writes a 2000 word manifesto and storms a church with a 45cal. NSA can suck my nuts.
"I have a clear and concise message for you all to convey to the media. You're raping our women and taking over, you have to go! This will be the most clear incident ever of a hate crime! I hope this results in a race war and I definitely don't think people will use this to try to restrict 2nd amendment rights!"
Gradualism, Incrementalism. The income tax started with the promise that it would stay at 1%. What kind of an asshole are you to not want to chip in 1%? How will this ever really effect the average American anyway?
I used to have a set of negatives from one of the moon shots. Someone who knew someone at NASA got a copy of a roll from one of the Hasselblad cameras used. These were large format, black and whites the cameras may have used 70mm film. They had the little grid marking crosses on them and varied from typical landscape pictures to shots of the rover and the Earth. They were pretty neat. At the time I had access to a process camera, enlargers, etc. so we could do contact prints or high contrast prints from the negs. They looked like this: Wish I still had them....