The Ukraine Crisis Part 2 . The Battle for the Donbas

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    This is just bloody brilliant! Magnificent!
     
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    Begins at 4:17 42:45: Q&A

    “The Ukrainians have been buying us time.”

    The least predictable major player is the United States of America, we are the source of most of the unpredictability in this war, we’re the source of most of the contingency, and it’s our actions, unexpected sometimes even to ourselves, which have created conditions where this war could actually take a rather fatal turn.”

    “The other thing which will be compromised to the point of collapse will be American reputation, because even if we convince ourselves that Ukraine is not important because we’re not really paying attention to it, I can assure you this, I’m sure many of you have had these conversations as well, but pretty much everybody around the world whatever their stand towards the United States might be, looks upon Ukraine as an incredibly easy test for us. Incredibly easy because we don’t have to send soldiers, incredibly easy because the amount of money concerned is frankly invisible, incredibly easy because ideologically it’s exactly the case that we keep saying “we care about a democracy which is directly threatened” and so if we can’t pass a test which our allies, adversaries and everyone else regards as being incredibly easy, we can’t expect our allies, adversaries and others to think that we will pass harder tests in the future.”

    “I’m going to say something which is certainly going to be painful for our Ukrainian guests I have to apologize for this in advance, but if Ukraine loses that doesn’t mean that Ukraine disappears. It means that these incredibly skilled and experienced soldiers will be press-ganged into the Russian Armed Forces, it means that the technologies which Ukraine has developed on its own, technologies which Taiwan very much needs, will instead go to Russia and to China. It will mean that Ukrainian agriculture which is the third or fourth most important agricultural sector in the world will be controlled by Russia rather than by Ukraine, it will mean that rare earths in Ukraine which are necessary on the market and necessary for lots of people will be controlled by Russia. So there’s a lot more to be lost here, it’s not a country which will disappear, it’s a country whose resources, including its human resources, will then be pushed, pulled, forced in another direction. And then it will be that one has to deal with a Russia which has won a war of aggression, a Russia which has proven that the rules don’t matter, a Russia which has gained lots of resources and a Russia which has proven not only to itself but to most of the world that there’s no particular reason to take the Americans seriously.”
     
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    Ukraine Aid is expected to pass the US Senate soon. However, every minute passes means more Ukrainian blood gets spilled needlessly. Putin will likely ramp up attacks to extract the maximum advantage possible while aid is delayed.

    Here's a link for contact info for your US Senators if you'd like to put their feet to the fire to get this thing passed ASAP

    U.S. Senate: Senators

    Apparently Rick Scott of Florida and Mike Lee of Utah are holding this up by trying to make amendments. It's looking like Wednesday is the earliest this will pass.

    Biden has already said he'll sign it, but I think he should go to the Senate to sign this into law the moment it's theoretically possible. Here's a link to contacting the White House

    Contact Us | The White House
     
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    ruϟϟia has made swift progress in areas northwest of Avdiivka, parts of Ocheretyne are now in rus hands.

    Russian Ground Forces Advance to Ocheretyne, Donetsk Oblast, Signaling Front-Wide Collapses | Atlas News

    Private Slovak donations to the Czech shell initiative passed 3 million euros.

    Slovaks raise over €3 million for ammunition for Ukraine

    3000 sq.m. fire in Voronezh in the electromechanical plant "Elmash".

    Electromechanical Plant On Fire In Voronezh

    Duda: Poland is ready to host US nuclear weapons.

    Poland "ready" to host NATO nuclear weapons, President Andrzej Duda says - CBS News

    Norway will contribute financially to the initiative to provide Ukraine with additional AA.

    Norway to join initiative to provide Ukraine with additional air defence assets

    Lithuania and Poland have started military exercises in the Suwałki Gap.

    Lithuania and Poland conduct military exercises for the defence of the Suwalki Corridor — ANKASAM | Ankara Center for Crisis and Policy Studies

    Kharkiv TV tower destroyed by ruϟϟian naϟis.

    Watch: Russian rockets destroy Kharkiv television tower

    Russia Struck Kharkiv TV Tower [VIDEO]

    USA will supply ATACMS missiles to Ukraine - Zelenskyy

    Biden will send Ukraine air defense weapons, artillery once Senate approves, Zelenskyy says
     
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    Deputy defense minister, sergei shoigu ally Timur Ivanov of ruϟϟia arrested on corruption charges.

    Russian deputy defence minister Timur Ivanov accused of taking bribes

    Russian deputy defence minister was arrested because of special operation by Ukrainian intelligence

    Chechen boss Ramzan Kadyrov said to be deathly ill. Kremlin said to be looking for a successor.

    Kremlin looking for successor in Chechnya in light of Kadyrov illness — Novaya Gazeta Europe

    ISW: "The Kremlin is conducting a concerted air and information operation to destroy Kharkiv City, convince Ukrainians to flee, and internally displace millions of Ukrainians ahead of a possible future Russian offensive operation against the city or elsewhere in Ukraine."

    Institute for the Study of War

    Illegal use of chemical weapons reported when ruϟϟia entered Ocheretyne.

    Ukraine war latest: Russian forces use chemical weapons to storm Ocheretyne

    Russian forces make significant gains in eastern Ukraine

    More Rosneft oil refineries on fire.

    Fire engulfs Russian oil deposits in Smolensk region – video

    ruϟϟia claims to have taken Novomykhalivka.

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    Ukraine is in trouble in the East-Ukrainian Donetsk region. ISW: "Russian forces are continuing to exploit a tactical penetration north and northwest of Avdiivka and recently made additional confirmed advances in the area. Geolocated footage published on April 27 shows that Russian forces advanced to northern Novokalynove (north of Avdiivka), and Russian milbloggers claimed that Russian forces completely seized the settlement on April 27.[17] Some milbloggers also claimed that Russian forces advanced into Keramik (directly northwest of Novokalynove), although ISW has not yet observed visual evidence of Russian forces in Keramik.[18] Geolocated footage published on April 27 also shows that Russian forces advanced in western Ocheretyne, in southwestern Solovyove, and to a treeline south of Novobakhmutivka (all northwest of Avdiivka).[19] Milbloggers claimed that Russian forces captured the entirety of Solovyove, which is consistent with available geolocated footage of Russian forces in the southwestern part of the settlement.[20] Several Russian sources also claimed that fierce fighting continued in western Berdychi (northwest of Avdiivka) and that Russian forces were pushing Ukrainian forces further west of the settlement.[21]"

    Institute for the Study of War

    Consequently, Novobakhmutivka appears to have been lost to the ruϟϟians.

    Russia claims it took control of village in Ukraine’s Donetsk region

    ruϟϟia attacks Ukraine's rail lines to disrupt supply of U.S. arms.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...isrupt-supply-us-arms-source-says-2024-04-26/

    Russia targets Ukraine railways as Western aid due to arrive

    Australia chips in with another 100 mil.

    Australia pledges $100m in military assistance to Ukraine as Richard Marles visits
     
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    Let's hope that US aid gets there fast and is effective in halting Russian progress.
     
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    Ukraine too is now making progress again. Tactically important Nestryha Island liberated.

    Russia loses control of key island

    Military: Ukraine regaining control over Nestryha Island in Kherson Oblast complicates Russian advances

    Military aged men wanting to escape the war has become a major issue on both sides. In russia, soldiers are deserting the army by the thousands. Those that do risk prison, or even getting shot.

    Thousands of Russian soldiers deserting army: Kyiv

    A russian serviceman who went there and survived to talk about it warns his countrymen: "Don't go to Ukraine!"

    Russian soldier warns others not to sign up for "hell" of Ukraine war

    https://twitter.com/wartranslated/s...russia-ukraine-video-hell-war-soldier-1895081

    Kazakhstan has sold soviet era aircraft to the Americans.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/us-buys-unusable-soviet-planes-32697407
     
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    Yeah, I liked that Kazakhstan went behind Russia's back and sold the aircraft to the Americans who will quickly ship to Ukraine.

    Kazakhstan used to be much closer to Russia, but not anymore. The US helped develop their oil fields way back when...

    Those planes/parts will help Ukraine and then with the imminent arrival of the F-16s should make it more difficult for Russia to use their planes.
     
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    It changes the perspective, when the neighbor you trusted for so long might suddenly want to invade you for BS reasons. But let's not kid ourselves, Kazakhstan is also most certainly helping ruϟϟia to skirt the sanctions. I see them as playing both sides here.

    More news:

    ruϟϟia has immediately tried to take Nestryha Island back. Twice already.

    https://ukranews.com/en/news/100253...and-situation-in-krynky-remains-difficult-afu

    Ukrainian F-16 fighters train in Denmark:

    https://twitter.com/NATO/status/1785330772250972269

    Now this is badass: Lidia Stepanivna, age 98, walks out of occupied Ocheretyne, 10 kilometers while bombs were raining down around her. She lived to tell the tale.

    A 98-year-old Ukraine woman says she walked 10km under fire to escape Russians

    Ukrainian woman, 98, treks miles under shelling to escape Russian forces

    Germany sends 10 more infantry fighting vehicles on top of the 90 already sent:

    Military support for Ukraine | Federal Government

    ruϟϟia hunts for weak spots.

    Russian invaders complete rotation on Kupiansk axis, renew assaults

    "Ukraine needs a significant speed-up of deliveries to strengthen the capabilities of its soldiers tangibly."

    Ukraine needs arms deliveries to be significantly paced up - Zelensky

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    When Russian children cheerfully “paint the war”, it looks a lot like the slaughter of civilians, doesn’t it?
     
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    ruϟϟia has gained a foothold in Ocheretyne.

    Russians managed to gain a foothold in Ocheretyne, - spokesman of the Khortytsia OSGT

    ruϟϟia claims to have taken Berdychi.

    Russia Says Captured Another Village in Eastern Ukraine - The Moscow Times

    ruϟϟia has strong hybrid activity in NATO territories that is said to constitute a threat to Allied security.

    https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_225230.htm

    Electric power down in ruϟϟian Oryol and Kursk Oblasts. Claims cannot be independently verified, however.

    Drone attacks allegedly damage Russian energy infrastructure

    Macron doesn't rule out sending troops to Ukraine if Russia breaks front lines - Le Monde.

    Macron doesn't rule out troops for Ukraine if Russia breaks front lines
     
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    ruϟϟia claims to have taken Ocheretyne completely.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ge-ukraines-east-defence-ministry-2024-05-05/

    Russia Says Forces Seized Village in Eastern Ukraine - The Moscow Times

    Russia says forces seized village in eastern Ukraine

    According to ISW, Ukrainians have retreated in Avdiivka, near Arkhanhelske, on Friday. ruϟϟia has seized the opportunity and taken said territories.

    ISW: "Ukrainian forces may have decided to trade space for time as they wait for the arrival of US aid to the frontline at scale in the coming weeks – an appropriate decision for an under-resourced force at risk of being outflanked."

    ISW: "Russian state media reported on May 4 that the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD) placed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukrainian Ground Forces Commander Lieutenant General Oleksandr Pavlyuk, and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko on Russia’s wanted list and opened criminal cases against the three Ukrainian leaders."

    Institute for the Study of War

    Financial Times: European security services warn that ruϟϟia could attempt acts of sabotage against targets all over Europe. Methods would include covert bombings, arson attacks and damage to infrastructure on European soil.

    Russia plotting sabotage across Europe, intelligence agencies warn

    European intelligence services preparing for Russian sabotage activities across Europe – FT

    A recently exposed case in NATO member Norway:

    Norway exposes Russian intelligence agents preparing acts of sabotage
     
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    ruϟϟia claims to have captured 2 more villages, Kyslivka and Novokalynove.

    Russia says it captures two villages in Ukraine

    Russia Says Captured 2 More Villages in Eastern Ukraine - The Moscow Times

    Russia says it captured two more villages in Ukraine

    Prime Minister of Lithuania: Lithuania is ready to send its soldiers to Ukraine on a training mission.

    Lithuania Ready to Send Troops to Ukraine, PM Says - The Moscow Times

    For what it's worth, China undertook a promise not to sell weapons to the Russian Federation: this became known during Xi Jinping's visit to Paris.

    Macron and Xi discuss Russia, Ukraine and trade – DW – 05/06/2024
     
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