The truth about Walmart

I didn't see any comedians in this video, and I live in a Walmart town I've seen what it does to people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pK1b7f19u8

 

What are those consequences that the stock dividends may go down? Medications...do you buy yours through their pharmacy? I don't and my wealthy employer doesn't since she was sold the wrong prescription through them.

Health insurance...you should interview some of the employees. Their share of cost is no where in line with full compensation. And Walmart selects their employees, are you saying they only hire the unemployable?

No it isn't always kids being forced to accept substandard wages. When you and your family are hungry you will work at about anything. Choice...when you are hungry there aren't many choices. And there's always some righteous bigwig out there to take advantage.

Is it really what people want, or what yuppies want for their hired help to shop at. Do you shop there? Do you buy your clothes there?

I've not only talked to them They are part of my family and my friends. I have a cousin that was injured on her job at the distribution center. And they went out of their way to deny her claim and fire her.

Have you been screened for your position and employment? Why is it only the poor are deemed to be a risk to society. What about unreasonable search and seizure? The poor have no right to protections of their persons? I can see pilots and those that operate equipment being required to go through a screening. But what risk does a sales clerk pose, as opposed to a corporate executive that has a three martini lunch and never undergoes a screening? Does your MD or surgeon go through random screenings?

Not all corporations but many of them. They aren't all out to benefit the world. And most are only out to benefit their own bottom line!

 

Not this video, I was talking about the one that Joaquin posted. I dislike Walmart as well,
reread my post Gardener, I think you took me the wrong way or something.....I was just trying to point out that Wal-Mart is just the tip of a much larger iceberg.

 

Sorry about that Rob, but some of the new posts have been distinctly pro corporate. I admit I didn't go back and read some of the other posts. Been a while since I posted in this thread. Sorry again.

 

all is good.

~love and light.

 

I dont think he is, even walmart dont employ the unemployable. I think he is saying they employ the failures and school rejects, retards and people who cant be bothered to get off their ass and learn useful things. they employ those who just cant get off the bottom rung because they really are bottonm rung people - lazy, stupid, dope smoking, uneducated, uneducatable, retards

But hey thats why food is so cheap. You moaning minnies that want low prices and high wages live in cloud cuckoo land, what do you want? low prices or fat wages for dumb people and no hopers ?

Ha ha ha ha they dont like walmarts terms let them fuck off to another company that gives better terms and conditions, no one forces you to apply to walmarts, no one puts a gun to your head and says you work for us or we break both your kids arms and leave them without parents. If you dont want a job at walmarts get a better education and apply elsewhere
Everyone knows the staff have to bend over and take it up the ass at walmarts so if you like anal sex work there, if you dont, then get a better education

 

What sort of education do you have Ronald. Did your uncle Roy or your dad hire you?

 

HAHAHAHAHA< fucking HA

are you serious? Hire a foul mouthed comedian to take cheapshots at a few easy targets (the alderman, t-shirt couple),then give unintereupted time for some lip service form the THE FUCKING MANHATIN INSTITUTE and some weasly economics academic who epouses the selling of the american dream to 3rd world citizens via the sweatshop and finsih off with some titties...what do you have? Grade A propaganda

I loved how they threw in the most colourful language and patriotic imagery everytime one of the films protaginists raised a potentitally valid point or question. Yes, bullshit indeed.

It's ironic because that anti wall-mart t-shirt depicting wall-marts supposed trailor trash clientel is EXACTLY how the wealthy corporate elite view thier market. Dip-shits like Rupert Murdoch who deliberately use their power via the media and government to erode standards of education, social wellfare and a sense of security and community. Why? To foster a state of fear and corporate dependency because aparently we're too fucking stupid to look after ourselves. Yes we should all be so lucky and gratefull to dawn the blue shmock and uniform of your new world order. Yes thank you wall mart for selling cheap drugs for the chronic medical illness that your synthetic environments have produced.

Sorry Rupert et all, you ain't pullin the wool over my eyes

wake the fuck up people!!!

the human race consumed more in the 20th century then in all it's history combined, we are consumer addicts and wallmart and the likes are the pushers

and certainly not just wallmart, every last fucking bussiness which sells plastic packaged hunks of cheap shit which are intentionaly designed to break in 5 years time so you have to buy it again...the industrial/oil/automobile age is DESPERATELY and AGRESSIVELY trying to hang on in the face of quikcly diminishing and finite resources and the very tactics being used to sustain it will only bring it crashing down sooner

learn to grow food, now, today, this very fucking second

learn to harvest and treat water

learn to build shelter

learn to be a good neighbour

learn to be a good father/mother/brother/sister/friend

give corporate america a swift kick in the arse and tell em your ready to start living life is it was meant to be lived, the american dream is dead don't let it take our life sustaining envrionment and communities down with it

this takes balls and tenacity because there is no easy way out and nothing worth achieving comes without sacrifice

and my apologies for my own colourful language, the issue tends to boil my blood just a tad

 

Keep in mind that shopping at Wal Mart, truthfully, is no different than shopping at any other chain of stores in the whole world.

Live off the grid. Grow your own food. Make your own clothes, from scratch. Build your own house. Then complain about the structure of corporate whorism that exists in such companies like Wal Mart. Anything short of that, a person sounds hipocritical in complaining.

 

^^^ I agree in principle but there is not enough time in the day to do all that. There is such a thing as a low consumption lifestyle though. I have grwn ny own food in the past but it takes a great deal of time to do so.

 

Eh, I posted in the wrong thread. My bad.

 

True that ~ busy lives means limited time to do such things.

It's good to see, though, that there are a lot of people who are starting to go back to a more 'grassroots' way of living, even with something as simple as having a basic veggie garden. And to people who have access to things like farmers markets, co ops, and smaller retail stores, that those get support too from their communities.

 

were supposed to get a wallmart in my little town. its still not certain that it will happen, theres so much community opposition, but theres plenty of people for it too
my town is really small and powered by small businesses so im really concerned about wallmart.
the problem is, were becoming an extension of vancouvers suburbs, despite the fact that you need to catch a ferry to get here. almost all the people ive talked to who are pro-wallmart have only lived here for a year or two and they think its the best idea because they can buy cheeply made stuff right here and not have to go to vancouver (never mind that they commute there five days a week). all the people who are against it have been living here for years (10 years for me) and love the place the way it is, a small, community-minded town in one of the most beautiful places on earth.
hopefully, we can keep them out. there are weekly protests at the proposed site, plenty of letters flying around and showings in the local theaters of walltown, etc.
wish us luck!
i, for one will not set foot in the place if it comes, unless it is to steal something. prehaps that is petty but its one of the few things i can do to show my intense disrespect for it.

 

And what would those Bangledashians be doing if they weren't being payed $.17 an hour? Answer: nothing. They'd be unemployed and starving. $.17 is a good thing.

Also, remember the exchange rate and relative costs of goods. Whatever they're being paid is enough to feed them.

What I get from a lot of you is that you have a poor background in economics. There are 2 branches of economics: normative and positive. Normative is how to do things and positive is what we should be striving for.

You throw out a lot of positive economics but there is absolutely no normative way to do those things. You'd have to break the laws of economics.

Example: France and the 35 hour work week. 35 hours and more people get jobs b/c someone has to work those 5 hours everyone else put off. Sounds good. Unfortunately, the the supply of labor went down the same demand increased and so the relative value of French labour decreased and instead of more employment resulting, employment decreased. If the French weren't on the Euro, the currency would have massively declined also and goods would have been more relatively expensive.

Economists were telling the French government this from the start. However, the common people are uneducated and so they were just trying to get policy makers to use positive economics. The laws of economics didn't bend for the French though and when reality set in, it smacked them in the wallet.

 

Especially if you are a corporate exec receiving a six figure salary for showing the company how to benefit it's bottom line. But 17 cents an hour would you accept that? Even if you were starving? Is taking advantage of 3rd world countries something we should be proud of? Why not offer them 1.50 an hour? These companies would still be making a profit? Why not, because they can suck every last cent into their profit margin, then they will go looking for more. What happens when they reach a point where no one is willing to sink that low...start a WAR? Or maybe legalize slavery again? So there's only one initial cost to the "company"?

 

Because those laborers are worth $.17/ hour. Why not pay orange juice companies $10/gallon? It would be good for the orange juice companies. Unofortunately for them, their product isn't worth that much. Someone else would just sell orange juice for $5/ gallon.

If corporation A employs those workers at $1.50/ hour then corporation B employs them at $.17/ hour and sells the $5/ gallon orange juice.

Execs are worth 6 figures because they bring that much value to the company. That's how much they're worth. If corporation A payed them 5 figs and corporation B payed them 6 figs then they'd work for corporation B and corporation A would fail because it has 0 business knowledge- the exec would be the guy advising corporartion B to be employing the laborers at $.17/ h instead of corp A's $1.50/ h. Because corp B survived and defeated corp A, the 6 figure exec was worth his 6 figure pay.


Employing those laborers at above their market value just means someone else will have to foot their bill- and it won't just be 6 figured execs; it'll also minimum wage workers in the U.S that need orange juice to drink. This is why socialist economies fail.

 

Good for you! So do I.

Capitalism isn't the only solution to our problems.

In fact, it is the very cause of most of our problems.

If the world were about to end, a true capitalist wouldn't do anything to stop it unless he was going to make enough money.

We do need a better sense of community, and we do have common needs that must be addressed.

Capitalism will not do this by itself.

 

I don't like WalMart, but frankly they have Transformers no one else has for ridiculously cheap, and since the product has already been purchased from the manufacturer, and WalMart is going to sell it regardless, my patronage isn't the end of the world.

But there are far more effective ways to combat WalMart than the standard hippy "I WON'T GO IN THERE EVAR!" mindset. For example:

-WalMart is maniacally anti-Union. To the point that if even a WHIFF of a union pops up at a store, corporate headquarters sends in a special task force to investigate, temporarily deposes the store management, and overall store operations go all sorts of haywire. So, if one were to simply print up some anonymous letters that make reference to a 'union meeting in the break room at X:XX o clock!" and leave one here and there...it would make things interesting.

-Every Wal Mart on the planet breaks at least a hundred laws every day, mostly regarding child labor, overtime, illegal immigrants, and so on. If a local newspaper got a thorough investigative report from someone who suffered through working there a few days...why, there would be quite the public uproar.

-You are a goddamn hippy, or at least some sort of pseudo-hippy. You probably weren't going to spend much there to begin with, and they weren't counting on your business anyway. Face it, hero, you boycotting them doesn't matter. BUT, if your town suddenly finds itself filled with flyers detailing Wal-Mart's terrible practices...REAL customers might stop going. This will matter. There are half a dozen excellent movies that show how awful wal-mart is, too, and all can be burned to countless DVDs and distributed...so I hear.

 

All excellent points. By boycotting them I accomplish one thing: I personally am not supporting their practices. Maybe it won't bankrupt them but at least I sleep better at night.

 

Wow..theres so many things wrong with Wal-mart..

and there self-fish. if there making that massive amount of money..why no pay the workers more. yet those big business people rather just stuff the green bills, with minimal work, in there pockets instead of helping out the people that work for them. that works hours to make barely enough...

immoral