The truth about the Iran election

Tibet.

Amongst all the rest of the crap you have espoused, I find it quite amazing that you deny the Hiroshima was genocide. In what way is the mass slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people not genocide?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki

 

Tibet is not a neighboring country.

 

You've seriously lost the plot now.

 

Tibet is not a neigboring country. This is a fact, which is why you aren't trying to refute it.

Genocide is an attempt to exterminate an entire population. In fact many historians think that an invasion of Japan would have killed far more people than the atomic bombs did.

The US did not attempt to wipe out the Japanese population, and after the surrender helped rebuild the country. Today is it one of the most prosperous, peaceful democracies in the world. That's not my definition of genocide.

 

Are you deliberately trolling now!

Tibet is a neighbouring country to China, if it's not a neighbouring country to china then what the fuck is it?

Are you trying to say that Tibet does exist as an autonomous state, and that it is really a part of China?

NO genocide is the extermination or partial extermination of member of a country, or an ethnic group.

Whatever your definition of genocide, it does not distract from the facts. WE dropped the first atomic bomb killing thousands upon thousands of innocent people. That's right, US, The West.

 

Negative.

Part of China.

That is an objective fact. Many people would like Tibet to become independent in the future, but at the moment it is part of China.

So if they killed one single Japanese guy that is genocide? No wonder the term gets so much abuse.

Yes because we built it first.

Japan killed millions, possibly tens of millions, of Chinese people in WW II. They were attempting to enslave the country. The US was attacked by Japan and when the US won, they helped set up a prosperous democracy.

This is not genocide.

 

You really are showing your true colours now.

No it is a very distorted and subjective fact.

 

There is nothing subjective about whether Tibet is an independent country TODAY, NOW.

It is not.

I am not saying i don't want Tibet to be its own country, or that China treats them nice. I am saying Tibet, at the moment, is part of China.

 

So you are just being an argumentative smart alec for the sake of it then?

 

No I am sticking to facts. Tibet is not a neighboring country.

Keep in mind the topic is about Iran's mullahs stealing an election. You are the one who went off topic and sidetracked us into a debate about Tibet and Hiroshima.

We are back where we started: your view on events in Iran is that you don't like America.

 

Well that's me well and truly summarised.

 

Yes, the mullah's stole the election... Even though 1 month prior to the election the victor was polled to win, YES, by western polls.

Sorry the west didnt win the fucking election. Why dont you media sucking asswipes protest the election that bush stole in 2000.

Oh, you did? You wore green that day and called it a revolution. Maybe obama will invade iran and make everything good, and make the american tweets happy. Oh wait, all the tweets were CIA...

Anyway, keep on keeping on.

 

I beleive also that our own current premier Mr Gordon Brown is also a fucking hypocrite in this matter. He was democractically elected as an MP but NOT as the prime minister. The only reason he got in was because nobody wanted the job when Tony Bliar resigned, no-one wanted to inherit the mess left behind, and they knew that if they did get the job it would involve a couple of years of becoming exponentially unpopular, and then having thair private lives swtren all across the media before the next election, whicih they know they will surely lose. Now that Gordon has absorbed most of the fall-out from TB, they all want him to fuck off and allow the party to elect a new leader, so they have any sort of chance of winning the next election. BUt of course Gordon doesn't want to go, and despite the whole country calling for the whole lot of them to go, he is also reticent towards calling a general election. Is that what WE call democracy?

On top of all that they have consistently lied and cheated since they got in, grossely over stepped their authority in how much they can morally control our private businesses and invaded two countries in the middle east, against international law and in the face of widespread international condemnation.

ALL so called democracies are nothing more than bullshit pantomimes to deceive the masses into conforming, they are more like autocracies.

 

Right so if you poll 55% support and win with 80%, nothing suspicous there? If popular opposition leaders lose in their own home town, nothing odd about that? Opposition candidates seeing their vote tallies FALL as the day progresses?

Sneer sneer sneer.

Sneer sneer sneer.

Who called for Iran to be invaded over this election?

Oh I see, you watched the state television of a authoritarian theocracy and believed whatever they told you to think. How clever and radical of you.

 

As I said, I hope you meet some Iranians so you can tell them you know exactly what it must be like to live in Iran since neither Iran nor the UK are democracies.

The invasion of Afghanistan did not receive widespread international condemnation.

Dude that is so fucking lame. You really are sounding more and more like a cliche teen rebel. Freedom is obviously wasted on you, you should have been born in North Korea if that's what you think.

 

Obama warned Iran that the world was watching, after the election. Presumably this kind of rhetoric is made with the assumption that whoever it is aimed will automatically feel coerced by the threat of military intervention, should they continue to fail to comply with the rest of the worlds standards.

 

I know several Iranians, and most of them prefer to call their homeland Persia.

I seem to remember a general feeling that America was over-reacting to the 911 tragedy, for a few months the world stood side by side with the US, until they started bombing the middle east and kidnapping muslims around the globve and incarcerating them without trial for years in a torture centre.

Fuck you. You continue to judge me and stereotype me in such ways.

Freedom is relative, as is everything.

So I am free to walk out of my house and breath fresh air, there are plenty of things though that I am NOT free to do such, such as smoke hashish. I could end up in prison for that. I am not free to go and build my own house without having to spend years working in a dead end job to save up enough money to pay for a small plot of land 50 feet from a busy motorway. I am not free to choose what I would like to do for a living, and I am forced to work for multinational companies who exploit majority for the profit of the few.

You might have a decent standard of living and a career you like, but I don't, and many other people in the west like myself struggle to find money to buy shelter and food. Maybe not as much as some by a long shot, but don't fucking tell me that I live in a free society.

 

you are wasting your time debating warmongers here, their objective is to destroy this forum.

 

I think you are trying to hard - if logic that weak is acceptable, then any criticism of Iran at all could be claimed to "imply" military intervention.

Which is perhaps what you want - no criticism of Iran.

 

It is not hard to see where the US might be heading with their threats towards Iran, it wouldn't be the first time.