The truth about Brexit.

The pro-Brexit campaigners told lies and appealed to the basest human sentiments. A large enough proportion of understandably disgruntled members of the working class and elderly population came out and voted to leave. Many remainers didn't bother turning out to vote but would have if they could have known the dire predicament of where we stand now. Cameron thought remain would win, which is why he risked the vote but instead goes down as one of the worst Prime Ministers in history. Theresa May was a soft remainer, but now instead has to preside over a transition to Brexit that she knows is not good for the country. Trump supported Brexit because he wanted some reflected glory and thought backing an independence movement of such international significance would chime well with his outsider status. He didn't really give a damn.

Of course it is much more complicated than this, and I haven't look at all the finer details because frankly the bureaucracy involved bores me. But this is basically my take on it.

Do you think we should go ahead with Brexit? Or would you be in favour of another vote. What would happen if there was another vote. Rioting in the street from working class remainers?

As an endnote, in my opinion Farage is a jumped up little fascist prick.

 

When we joined Europe, it was operating mainly as the EEC and it had advantages for the UK. The problems started as the EU expanded, including other eastern European countries and the EU bureaucrats started trying to rule ever increasing aspects of our everyday life. Unfortunately for us, people from these new countries flooded us simply because they spoke English far more than French or German and we were forced to admit their criminals, riffraff and scroungers. The fire at Grenfel tower has highlighted the sheer number of these people who accepted social housing and then sublet the property and lived a life of unbelievable luxury back in their own country. The true identity of many of the people who died in that fire will probably never be known, but we already have cases of the legal tenants families claiming huge compensation for people who died, but are sill alive and living back in their own country.

If we are not financially 'propping up' the EU, why are they creating so many hurdles. When we joined, we had an open border with Ireland and although they had not joined the EU at the time, it was not considered a problem. Now that we are leaving, it is becoming a major issue. It sickens me, that the eastern European members who have taken so much advantage of our hospitality are now colluding with Brussels to make our exit an expensive nightmare.

As you said, it is not a simple or one sided issue, but on balance, I think that we are better off trading with our former British colonies who suffered badly when we joined.Hopefully they will not hold too many grudges for how we treated them when we joined. It is also an interesting fact that Ireland joined when Europe threatened their trading with the UK. In reality, I sometimes wonder if Brussels is fearful that our exit may start to topple their ivory tower.

 

Support for the EU has declined in every country that has joined it!

 

My basic opinion is that we voted Brexit because we are a miserable, xenophobic, racist country still living on the past glories of the British Empire and the defeat of Hitler, which by the way we only achieved with massive help from the USA.

 

I'm for another vote, just because more brits acknowledge now they have been played the first time. But if that one shows a majority in favor of Brexit it should be speeded up. At the disadvantage of the british naturally. You leave, your loss.

 

This c**t says it all. Back Brexit and then bet against the UK economy and rake in the dough. This is legalized robbery.

Brexiter hedge fund chief's bets against UK economy fail to pay off

 

I made my views clear in a previous answer.
However, we need a complete new government who are loyal to this country to make it work.
The wishy washy opposition parties are if anything worse than the existing devils who claim to represent us.

 

and a lot dont see it that way some feel more like they are being played now even more !
But yeah another vote would probably go in favor of remain because people that voted will say "Fuck it whats the point of a democratic vote if we keep doing it until they get the answer they want "
The EU is a bureaucracy with the MEPs sucking on the Tit of the people ! (and you have no say in any of it !

 

Fuck the EU. The people have spoken.

 

Voter trust in the EU falls to record low. So proclaimed the front page of today's Guardian. In every one of the big European states, trust has gone into "a vertiginous decline". Five years ago, no country, not even Britain, showed more than half its voters hostile to Europe, and most were strongly supportive. Now, according to the EU's own Eurobarometer, distrust runs at 53% in Italy, 56% in France, 59% in Germany, 69% in the UK and 72% in Spain. The EU has lost the support of two thirds of its citizens.

 

I think part of the reason continental Europeans are kicking against the EU is the general economic downturn in Western economies. Blame whatever system is in place. That's understandable. I suppose I want to remain in the EU for personal reasons. I want freedom of movement in Europe, ease of transactions, and maybe one day to live there.

 

I don't think that you have anything to worry about on the travel front. Before we joined the EU, I traveled to France, Germany and Austria without the need for a passport. Today, they would not let me in if my passport was out of date by one day, so what difference will it make when we leave.
Regarding settling in another country, They may do a few checks to ensure that you do not have a criminal past, or intend living entirely off their welfare state, but with the welfare state in the UK, they already know that this is highly unlikely to be your incentive. .

 

The people were sold a pack of lies during the campaign, such as saying there would be an extra £300 million a week for the NHS. Turned out to be bullshit. Plus in my view there should have been a requirement for a two thirds majority, not fifty fifty, on an issue as big as this for the country. As it is it has completely divided the country.

 

The reason that May isn't pushing a hard Brexit is because her government is being propped up by the DUP who don't want a hard border with the ROI.

 

So if there is another vote and less than two thirds vote to remain we should still leave ?

 

I don't think the remoaners would accept that, given that the first vote was fifty fifty.

 

Was it fuck !

 

What do you mean? More than fifty percent voted to leave, and that's what triggered Brexit.

 

Yes Thats how you win a vote more than half voted to leave !
you insinuated that the first vote ended up 50/50 which would have been a draw