The thinking behind each and every scumbag 'nasty sleaze party' member !!!

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    These bastards want to put the clock back to the dickensian period and recreate work-houses etc !!!



    Suella Braverman hit with backlash over 'terrifying' comments on benefits

    Jimmy Nsubuga
    4 October 2022, 7:13 pm
    Suella Braverman has been criticised by experts after saying she wanted to cut welfare spending due to a “Benefits Street culture” in the UK.

    Speaking at a fringe event at the Tory party conference on Tuesday, the home secretary claimed “far too many people” are “fit to work” but choose to claim welfare instead.

    Braverman was responding to a question on whether benefits should increase with the rate of inflation so claimants would not see real-term cuts to their income.

    Torsten Bell, chief executive of The Resolution Foundation think tank, called the home secretary's comments “nonsense”, pointing out that the vast majority of people who receive Universal Credit are either employed or unable to work due to disabilities or caring responsibilities.

    Watch: Braverman attacks Tory MPs who 'staged coup' over 45p tax rate and suggests 'benefit street culture'


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    Proportion of Universal Credit recipients who are employed (Yahoo News UK/Flourish)
    According to the latest government figures, 41% of people who receive Universal Credit are employed.

    Some 30% of UC recipients are not able to work due to health reasons or caring responsibilities.

    Bell said: “Terrified by how swiftly we’ve gone from 'we reluctantly have to cut benefits to pay for our essential tax cuts' to 'we actively want to cut benefits to punish the work-shy.'

    He added: “We’ve got amongst the highest employment rates on record and the recent fall is amongst older workers who aren’t claiming benefits.”

    Liz Truss has been struggling to maintain Cabinet discipline following her U-turn over the tax cut for top earners, with the issue of uprating benefits emerging as the latest divide in the party.

    On Tuesday, ministers Robert Buckland and Penny Mordaunt said it “makes sense” to increase benefits in line with soaring inflation rather than deliver a real-terms cut.

    Mordaunt joined backbench rebels in calling for welfare payments to be raised in line with inflation, which has been at around 10%, rather than earnings at 5%.

    Truss is considering a rise in line with the far lower earnings figure.

    Mordaunt told Times Radio: “I’ve always supported, whether it’s pensions, whether it’s our welfare system, keeping pace with inflation. It makes sense to do so.

    "That’s what I voted for before and so have a lot of my colleagues.”

    Braverman has become the most high-profile minister to attack the welfare state.

    She previously said she wanted to cut spending in this area during the Tory leadership election campaign.

    Read more: Tory MP: 'Poor people should rely on each other - the state can't catch everyone'


    Braverman said: “We have got a lot of carrots to get people into work but we have got to add more conditionality and a bit more stick.”

    She cited her constituency of Fareham in Hampshire as having some areas which had this culture.

    She said there were pockets of communities across the UK where “families had known nothing but welfare.”

    Read more: Penny Mordaunt breaks ranks as she says benefits should rise with inflation

    Richard Murphy, professor of accounting practice at Sheffield University, said: “Braverman is engaging in class warfare - with a pack of lies and total misinformation that is informed by prejudice.”

    On Monday, Truss and chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng made a drastic U-turn in the face of widespread criticism from the public and Tory MPs and axed their plans to abolish the top rate of income tax.

    The turmoil over the tax cut has led to chaos within the Conservative party, with Cabinet discipline appearing to break down and MPs going public with statements breaking the party line on policy decisions.

    Braverman also expressed her disappointment Truss had backtracked on her decision to abolish the 45% rate for earnings over £150,000 and accused Tory rebels like Michael Gove of staging a “coup”.


    Tory MP: 'Poor people should rely on each other - the state can't catch everyone'

    Nadine Batchelor-Hunt
    4 October 2022, 6:07 pm
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    Tory MP Robin Millar said it's important that people living in poverty help each other. (Nadine Batchelor-Hunt/Yahoo News UK)

    A Tory MP has said people living in poverty should help each other cope with the cost-of-living crisis and that the state "can't catch everything".

    At a discussion about poverty at the Conservative party conference in Birmingham, MP for Aberconwy Robin Millar said there is “a huge importance in… [making sure we] don’t tell people who are in a disadvantaged state that they can’t help other people”.

    The remarks came in response to a question by Yahoo News UK on what the role the state has during the cost-of-living crisis given lifelines like food banks are increasingly unable to meet the current surge in demand.

    “When I’ve worked in some poor communities, it’s been very important for them to be able to help one another,” said Millar.

    “And this is important when we think of the state being the last resort.

    "What that assumes is that we’re all passive recipients of benefits or goodness… the state [should not steamroller] the individual human dignity that comes with helping others around us.”

    Read more: Penny Mordaunt breaks ranks as she says benefits should rise with inflation

    He also questioned whether the existence of food banks is “philosophically” a bad thing, arguing they provide communities with a way to support each other.

    Millar said in his constituency had “multiple food banks” and that it had been “quite inspirational” to see them working during the pandemic.

    “Frequently, we’re told: ‘There are food banks, that’s a damning indictment of the government’,” he said.

    “But there’s a philosophical question there - about what is the balance of the role of community [versus]… state-led intervention.”

    And while he insisted the state does have a role to play when it comes to supporting Brits on the lowest incomes, Millar said ultimately the state cannot “catch” everyone.

    Tory MP Robin Millar made the remarks at an event labelled Winter is coming? How to tackle poverty in tough times hosted by Bright Blue and Christians Against Poverty. (Nadine Batchelor-Hunt/Yahoo News UK)
    Appearing alongside him at the panel was Emma Revie, chief executive of food bank charity the Trussell Trust, who said that while the third sector can provide a lifeline, it is not enough.

    “I think we need to hold our part of providing solutions as a third sector organisation,” she said.

    “However what you will hear, if you speak to any volunteer in our food banks, is how inadequate a food parcel is in relation to the problem that people are presenting.”

    Revie added: “For somebody who can't afford food, that means they're also really struggling with their heating bills, they're struggling to cover the cost of their accommodation, they're struggling to pay for their kid's school shoes, school trips - and a food parcel is not going to cut it.”

    Gareth McNab from Christians Against Poverty also conceded that charities do have a role to play in supporting vulnerable groups - but said the third sector should not be the lifeline step from destitution.

    “Wouldn't it be amazing if community spirit wasn't helping people survive, but was actually helping people thrive?” said McNab.

    Read more: Suella Braverman Claims 'Benefits Street Culture' Still Exists Despite Cost Of Living Crisis

    “Wouldn’t it be great if communities were coming together to celebrate the good in their community, rather than to make sure people don't die of hunger and cold?”

    He added: “I think it’s just saying that, when it comes to the fundamentals of avoiding destitution, that's not something I want to my neighbour to feel a sense of responsibility for.”

    It comes as the government faces backlash after it suggested welfare spending could be slashed to fund a spree of unfunded tax cuts it made in its mini-budget last month.

    Among support on the chopping block is the uprating of benefits in line with inflation, with Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwarteng refusing to honour former chancellor Rishi Sunak’s pledge to increase them by September's inflation in April.

    The pair have not only faced condemnation from activists and charities, but are also facing a rebellion from their own MPs following reports they plan to slash welfare spending during a cost-of-living crisis.
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2022

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