The Supreme Court endorses the personal right to own guns.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by The Scribe, Jun 27, 2008.

  1. jneil

    jneil Member

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    If you call 911 where I live it takes the police 20 minutes to get here. 911 might work in an urban/suburban area, but not out in the middle of nowhere.
     
  2. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    It happens more and more it seems. We just had instance around here where someone got a little hot under the collar about another driver:

    http://www.redbluffdailynews.com/ci_9817023?source=most_viewed

    And the gun just seemed to complicate a testosterone laced situation. Road rage what is that actually about? I don't understand it.

    I totally understand where you are coming from Ari, but I also see more and more with fixed elections, controlled media that someday perhaps the only recourse of a free people will be to rise up against a tyrant. I am not sure how to balance the concerns of society. I don't want young bucks armed to the teeth shooting because they are defending their manhood or reps, but I would wish to stand against tyrannical usurption of my individual rights should it come to that.
     
  3. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    You are free to install a security system, own a dog, install locks on your windows and doors, become close and familiar to your neighbours, install cameras, build a shelter, escape routes, organize a nightly neighbourhood watch, free to purchase a dart gun and tranquilizers, and free to move next door to a police station.

    It is not unreasonable for the police be dispatched from wherever they are and to arrive as fast as possible. 20 minutes in a rural area is pretty good.

    What seems most unreasonable is to think a gun under your pillow or locked up in your closet with the shells locked in another room is going to do anything to improve the chances of the police arriving sooner or that the home and/or one's self is somehow going to be safer and protected by having a gun above taking any more preventive measures than being faced to face with a killer.
     
  4. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yep, and I am also free to own a gun for self defense. That's one right they haven't taken away... yet.

    So please, tell me, where does a person obtain a dart-tranquilizer gun?
     
  5. Aristartle

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    Hee hee hee. I wish I knew, but I truthfully have no idea.

    I let my imagination run a little wild when I was imagining ways of subduing a person. I was originally going to go with blow darts as a creative way of deterring an attacker. Hey, you can't hate me for exploring alternatives to a gun.

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  6. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    in most states you cannot get the kinds of tranquelizers you would need to have any effect without being a veterinarian, most of them are used recreationally, so it makes it tricky to get them, once yo have them, hell, use a blowgun, but getting the darts would be much harder than getting a box of 762 nato rounds.

    I do not like handguns, I love rifles, I also enjoy shotguns. I do think that this ruling was misguided, I do think that the individual should have the right to own guns, but I also believe that the ammendmant was to protect the rights of a well organized militia, I think that right should be protected at least as completely if not moreso than the right of the individual, it is the right of dramatically less than peaceful assembly, and that is a right american's have lost

    if me and five hundred of my closest friends got together, bought some tanks, few hundred assault rifles, battle trim, etc. at least the leaders WOULD be put into prison, possibly as enemy combatants, probably never to see an actual trial, this is at least part of what we should give a damn about, that right was set up to protect a citizens right to a coup, and we CERTAINLY do not have that right today.
     
  7. jneil

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    Who is the organizer of these militias, the president, your congressman, the sheiriff of your county, or you?

    You'd be subsidized and hired as goverment/military consultants.
     
  8. PittPass

    PittPass Banned

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    I have a security system in my house which is monitored. I also live outside of the city. What this does is if the alarm is tripped it called the monitoring center, the monitorring center then calls the residence to verify it was not set off accidentally (which happens often), if no answer to the call or if an improper password is given the authorities are called. Then all you have to do is try and hide till they get there.

    For a dog to really have any type of effect it would have to have a bit of viciousness to the animal. Which opens up a myriad of negative possibilities.

    Very few people now days would not already have this done. There is an old saying “all a lock is good for is keeping an honest man honest”

    That’s actually good advice and not only from a personal protection aspect. However this will only carry so far, which I have commented on before. People don’t want to get involved.

    Cameras? Good if you want a record of something happening while you are away, or maybe recording your own murder.

    Again this can be a good idea unless they get “overzealous” and are then labeled as vigilanties.

    Not possible in today’s world as illustrated above.

    Well we had better start building a LOT more police stations.


    Unless the intruder/criminal also knows they have a good 10-15 minutes to do whatever they want before there is any possibility of police arriving.



    I don’t think anyone is saying it improves the arrival time of police. It is the last measure one uses until the police does infact arrive. There are many instances of this if one takes a little time to look.
     
  9. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    citizens, and, you would only be subsidized and hired if you had hired ex military guys to vouch for you (lobbyists)

    if you fermented revolution, you'd be fucked
     
  10. Aristartle

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    You could master the art of Bruce Lee. He wouldn't sleep with a gun.
     
  11. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Did Bruce sleep?
     
  12. Aristartle

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    Dunno. But t[SIZE=-1]rained ext[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]ra ha[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]rd to be kick-ass at defending himself.

    Funny, I spoke to someone named Jason Lee today. Okay, so it wasn't that funny. :D
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  13. Hiram Joseph Yates

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    He's sleeping right now! In fact, he wont ever wake up. I, Bruce Lee, have given much thought to Aristartles comments. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. burp! lol
     
  14. Aristartle

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  15. Hiram Joseph Yates

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    You must really be far up in California if you compare Cheney and Bush to Hitler and Stalin.
     
  16. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    "most people ARE SHEEP WHO NEED TO BE CONTROLLED."

    I take great offense to that. So, who should be controlled and who should make these decisions... who should be the controllers and who should be the controlled? Who has that right?
     
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