The Stoners Echo Chamber

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  1. Driftrue

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    Oh. I need to read some dictionary definitions because I don't think of fate and destiny as things to believe in, or not.. They're just words for what undeniably is. So like, as in regard to Tyr's comment.. Goddess can't tell me "nope, that's not it" because I am on this path and it IS it. Because I'm on it..i can't not be on my own path. I can keep trying to avoid things and looping back round, and so "the path" just leads me back to those things I'm trying to avoid. My understanding of fate and destiny doesn't negate free will and choice. I have the free will to make choices which means this lifetime is less meaningful than it could be.. I have the free will to refuse to learn or grow. I can choose not to aim for the highest destiny. I just don't understand why I would choose that.
     
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  2. Driftrue

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    Okay okay.. I get the issue.
    Predetermined doesn't have to mean set in stone by "God" or anyone/thing else. I think our fates and destinies are predetermined by ourselves, because we already made the choices. Because time is not the linear thing we experience. In reality, there is no issue with the concept that it happened, is happening, has already happened, all at once. So our fate is predetermined in the sense that even though you haven't lived it yet in the way you experience things, you have.

    I remind everyone that my beliefs are just a game, as the rest of life, and I am not a fundamentalist. So obviously it's probably all something else : ) but I reckon I'm getting closer. As is my destiny to : P
     
  3. Driftrue

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    I'd I wasn't me, I wouldn't quite follow that explanation.
     
  4. Meliai

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    I follow you perfectly
    That used to be a concept I thought about a lot, the idea that everything that has happened, is happening, and will happen, is actually happening instantaneously
     
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  5. Asmodean

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    I find the theory intriguing, but not convincing. I'm not sure of all the implications if time would not only be linear. Like, could we take notice of our future then (if we would find ourselves in a hypothetical situation to observe it nonlinear). Like the inevitable fixed version, not one of many possible futures?
     
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    Haha I sat down at my computer to work at 8:30 and all I've done instead is ponder the complexities of life with my hipforum pals
     
  7. Meliai

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    it would be kind of nice if we were just subject to the whims of fate though
    It would take some of the punch out of the consequences of our choices, like oh well this was supposed to happen anyways.
    And maybe it is. Maybe it is all meant to happen.

    All I know is that I dont know nothing

    Alright I'm going to get some work done now
     
  8. Asmodean

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  9. Driftrue

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    I don't experience any fear over the choices I make, since I developed my beliefs. Because when a thing is not true to my path, it feels like the sound of a discordant note.
     
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  10. Asmodean

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    I find the random way of things both more likely and more comfortable. I find it rsther unsettling if it would all be fixed or even worse predetermined by some creator/creative force... Aweful!

    Good luck! :-D
     
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  12. Asmodean

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    I noticed after posting :p
     
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  13. Driftrue

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    Fuck I miss my friend "D". The woman in her 70s I mentioned when someone asked if we'd reached out to anyone. I did give her a call after that. She's good. Her and me are so on the same page about certain stuff, stuff that hardly anyone else is. Usually I see her regularly in the cafe and I didn't realise until now how calming it is to know she gets me.

    And today I am also missing the person I have never found, who shares the aspect of me that I could call "the runner", but involves more than just running. I've literally never met anyone who I share that stuff with. I see existence of them at times, online. Far away people, in many senses of the word.
     
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    I've got digging to do now. Tea to make and garden to dig. Dig dig dig. I love that word.
     
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    Yeah... I can dig that. man.
     
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  17. everything bagel

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    worked for literally 3 days straight and then slept for about 24 hours. Its 7am and I'm buzzed and time and even space has no meaning to me. I was presented with an amazing business opportunity (this alludes to my last post in here) but its only amazing if the coronavirus lockdown goes on for like another year. If it lasts the next 3 weeks then this opportunity becomes a hindrance. Do I plan for the uncertain future or the fucked up present? Any insight will be appreciated.

    Also new update on my phone has made my keyboard a shitshow . So many autocorrect bullshit typos I had to manually correct. Autocrorrect doesn't think flambee is a word but doesn't automatically correct typos like "din3r"

    Like seriously? Took me 20.mins to post tbis
     
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    lol
     
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    Oh God damn it
     
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  20. Asmodean

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    Worked for literally 3 days straight? :eek:
     

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