The Snow Storm And What The Hell?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by scratcho, Jan 23, 2016.

  1. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    ( to Karen ) I suppose---I have never owned a front wheel drive..------------it's against nature !!
     
  2. expanse

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    According to chain and cable companies you can.

    I haven't tested my cables on my front wheel drive, and I hope I really don't have too.
     
  3. Lynnbrown

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    ^ Same with me for both of these posts. I've never seen snow chains.

    Even though Aeri knew her father had snow chains, I've never even known anybody that had any.


    Like Mel said...we shut down.
     
  4. Karen_J

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    What would that feel like in the steering wheel? I once drove my dad's car with chains on the back, and it shook the whole car really hard.

    I've noticed sometimes when my car is parked with the wheels turned, the front tire only misses touching the fender by an inch or less. My husband's Jeep is like that too, on the front. The Jeep's rear wheels are a different story. Looks like there's room for a party in there with the wheel. It's proven itself in deep snow drifts without chains, up in the mountains.

    Monday may be time for a mountain road trip! I've heard that all the NC mountains have more than a foot on the ground, and they get the dry snow that's easier to drive in.
     
  5. expanse

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    Places up north are better equipped at snow removal, so there is probably not much need for chains. I wouldn't say that they get a lot of bad snow and ice where Aeri is (or I'm I wrong Aeri?). It's in between where snow removal sucks, but every so often you get bad snow and ice.
     
  6. scratcho

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    Karen, chains really bang around when/if the snow is very thin or you transition from snow to pavement. You have to get them off before you drive any distance at all when that happens.
     
  7. Karen_J

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    I don't recall ever owning a car that was not front wheel drive.
     
  8. scratcho

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    They're fine---I just come from another era. It really is weird to me, to see someone take off and spin the front wheels. Just one a' them-there things.
     
  9. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Wonder why pickups are not made with front wheel drive?
     
  10. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Chains went out of style in the 60's.

    Around Pittsburgh they didn't clean the roads too well so people would use them. In the late 60's the main roads were cleaned pretty well so you didn't need them a lot.
    Studded tires are illegal in PA, they tear up the roads.

    Out here in the Central PA area almost no one uses chains as the roads get cleared. The biggest problem is the interstates which get drifted over from the winds.
    I don't think anyone under 60 even knows what tire chains are. I also haven't seen snow tires for years. All weather yes, snow tires no.

    I've never run chains and usually get around. I have front wheel drive and that is mostly all you need unless the snow is so deep that the car bottoms out on it and gets lifted up.

    When I first moved to this area I had a Gremlin (which has zero weight over the back tires and no traction) And I was passing Jeeps going uphill. It's all a momentum thing.

    I've also driven my Miata all year round with nothing but regular tires on it. (As long as it doesn't bottom out)

    Not that I've never gotten a car stuck BTW.
     
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  11. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    They have made front drive pick ups. Plymouth had one made from the old Horizons and Volkswagon had one made from the Rabbit.
     
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  12. expanse

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    To clarify, I was talking about cables only in regards to front wheel drive cars.
     
  13. Karen_J

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    Ever since I've been married to a Jeep owner, I've noticed that a lot of people take great delight in telling us how worthless Jeeps are, as if we're going to give a shit about their snarky second hand opinions and speculation.
     
  14. Wizardofodd

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    I find those people especially amusing when I'm getting around just fine in my Jeep whether the snow plows have been out or not.....and they are stuck somewhere on the road or not even able to leave their house because of their superior vehicle. :)
     
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  15. Karen_J

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    It gives them more time to post bullshit online. ;) They don't know what's moving on the roads, because they aren't there.

    I really don't know why there are so many Jeep haters around, since it isn't just a prestigious brand for rich people, like LandRover. [​IMG] From the newest Grand Cherokee down to the most rickety old rebuilt Wrangler, they'll all do the same basic things, which is anything that doesn't require a "monster truck". Now if somebody wants to talk trash about how impractical they can be for ordinary, everyday driving, that's a different story. Nobody needs to maintain all that for normal trips to the grocery store or downtown. When my husband has just spent a Saturday driving my Volvo or the Audi that I used to have on dry mountain roads, and he has to go back to his Jeep on Monday, he says it feels like trying to drive a children's inflatable bounce house on wheels! :rofl:

    LandRover owners are the ones I can't relate to. They pay $40,000+ for world-class offroad capabilities that they never want to use, because their baby could get a scratch!

    Our Jeep can ford 20 inches of water. You can submerge a LandRover a lot deeper, as long as the base of the windshield is exposed. I'd be scared to death to try it. [​IMG] How do you know for sure exactly how deep the water is? We've forded clear streams where you can see the bottom. Anything deeper is beyond our comfort zone.
     
  16. SpacemanSpiff

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    they have to be loose to work as intended


    newer cars do not have the clearance ...
     
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  17. SpacemanSpiff

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    dodge rampage ..plymouth scamp.... subaru brat
     
  18. Wizardofodd

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    I use my Jeep for what it was built to be used for. I have a Grand Cherokee Limited HO (high output) with a V8 engine and some pretty beefy tires. I don't baby that thing at all. I take it in the timber, fields, snow, mud and anything else I may encounter at work or play. I pull things with it and pull other things over with it. The back seats are laid down so I can put gear for work back there. It's also perfect for our kayaks and camping gear. It's a Jeep!
     
  19. Karen_J

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    My husband is sitting right beside me, so I'm passing along some second hand information here. Ours is a 2000 Laredo with the old straight six engine, which weighs less so it goes better on beach sand (better balance). It's been everywhere and done everything. Both bumper covers have been ripped off and replaced more than once, and having shock absorbers is a distant memory. The inside is pristine, like a city car.

    He carries two plug-in air compressors, so he can change tire pressure anywhere, two tires at a time. He runs 36 pounds normally, 25 to 28 in deep snow, and 20 to 22 in deep sand and on rocks (to reduce the chances of sidewall damage by sharp rocks).

    I know air pressure makes a big difference. I've driven it before (on pavement) when the pressure was low. It felt like the steering wheel was connected to the front wheels by bungee cords! It was like everything was happening in slow motion, like living in a Salvador Dali painting.

    I'm itching for a snow adventure now. If the paved roads in the mountains are too clear by Monday, we'll get on some Forest Service roads that NEVER get plowed.
     
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  20. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    It's not the Jeep, it's the driver.
     
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