The Shit is Gonna Hit the Fan!

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by skip, Sep 12, 2007.

  1. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

    Messages:
    12,910
    Likes Received:
    1,881
    yes, that is the official take on that. Of course I'm leaning more to the shot down scenario. But wait, wasn't the air force on stand down that day?
     
  2. hannahannahannah

    hannahannahannah What's a Palindrome?

    Messages:
    506
    Likes Received:
    3
    I think most people here also know the world is dangerous and fucked up. Otherwise, we'd not be here discussing the things we are. I'm currently not of the ilk that "nothing can be done about it". We have the CA senate voting down mandatory human chipping by employers, we've got officials banding together to ward off the North American Union crap, we've got 3 states that have voiced their unwillingness to go along with the idea of National ID Cards (Maine was the first I read yesterday, along with Montana and the third state escapes me at the moment), and these are just a few examples. Now unless this is all a fake front to make us feel someone is actually on the side of the people and looking out for us, then I have some hope. But, I suppose we won't really know until, the shit hits the fan.

    And I don't live a paranoid life either. What I'm trying to do now is be as informed as I can, and sift through the crap info - which there's plenty of out there.
     
  3. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

    Messages:
    12,910
    Likes Received:
    1,881
    Yes, it's always good to put things in perspective. As bad as things may seem, they can always be worse.

    Besides, it's very therapeutic to post one's fears/worries in public and get feedback.

    Also the more ppl who are made aware of these things, the better.

    The only way this shit is going to stop is by an INFORMED public finally doing something about it. If the public is never informed, they will never act.

    The problem is that most Americans expect the Gov't to take care of everything for them. They forget that the American public IS PART OF THE POLITICAL PROCESS, beyond just voting every couple of years.

    The "system" is setup for the public to lobby their politicians just like lobbyist do. I remember Cindy Sheehan and others doing "sit-ins" in Congressional offices to get the congressmen to pay attention to the antiwar movement.

    We can't just sit on our hands and complain. We must take action too!

    There are many ways we can respond to the unfolding events.

    Tomorrow is a big protest in DC against the war. There is going to Civil Disobedience. That means a confrontation with the powers that be.

    Let's just hope the media actually cover this event. If they do a poor job, then once again it is up to us to chastise the media for not doing what they're supposed to be doing.

    As far as anything happening today, I hold no expectations because if it's not today it will be tomorrow or the next day. All the shit we've witnessed since Bush took office is definitely part of a plan, and the plan will lead us to more war, more death, more destruction, more misery and even higher gas prices. Of that you can be sure!
     
  4. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

    Messages:
    7,176
    Likes Received:
    44
    That seems to be the case for most people in most nations these days..
     
  5. hannahannahannah

    hannahannahannah What's a Palindrome?

    Messages:
    506
    Likes Received:
    3
    I took a "risk" last night and emailed some friends back home (California) links on the subjects of the ID Card, North American Union, Veri-Chips, etc. One of the friends I sent the links to I've known since 2nd grade. Over the years she's become a right wing Kathy, I don't really know anymore. But, I hit the send button "in case". You know? Just to start a friggin DIALOGUE people! And to my amazement she replied in the positive, hearing the issues completely. She plans to fight the fight. So, all this to say, it's the sharing of the information that's important. How it's going to fall and play out, I haven't a clue.
     
  6. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

    Messages:
    10,027
    Likes Received:
    2
    Probably the most important issues, and those being diverted from the western information.
     
  7. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

    Messages:
    10,027
    Likes Received:
    2
    Although I wonder how important either north or south Korea is to the world.
     
  8. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

    Messages:
    10,027
    Likes Received:
    2
    Taiwan on the other hand has been a huge manufacturer of US goods, but maybe our corporations don't need them anymore....like they they don't need US manufacturaing anymore.

    Almost like no one needs to consider the working American when it comes to manufacture. Forget old friends, sell to the lowest bidder and wage war in the world...that will increase your profits.
     
  9. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

    Messages:
    10,027
    Likes Received:
    2
    Perhaps China wants to grab the industrial edge that Twainan built over decades, in one small sweep.
     
  10. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

    Messages:
    844
    Likes Received:
    0
    This is really turning into Nostradamus type predictions of 'something is definitely going to happen - we're just not sure what or when'. Therefore if anything happens anywhere at any time - whoah! The theory was proved right! Because we all know its unprecedented for anything to happen anywhere, only a massive conspiracy could produce historical events.

    When the predictions fail to happen (the put options didn't predict anything, etc) it doesn't prove the conspiracies are wrong, it only proves they are more devious that we thought. Its circular logic.
     
  11. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

    Messages:
    12,910
    Likes Received:
    1,881
    No Pepik, the Israelis DID launch a Big assault on a Syrian Installation. They completely destroyed it. That is a FACT.

    The fact that they didn't RESPOND, YET, is the only reason we are still waiting for that TRIGGER EVENT.

    Of course the mortgage/credit meltdown is a whole nother subject. And that is gonna hit the fan big time - I can tell you more or less EXACTLY - end of this year. Wanna BET?

    Don't you read the NEWS boy? Or don't they get it out where you live?

    Lessee, that's $567 and counting...

    I hope these troll postings are worth the price to you...
     
  12. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

    Messages:
    844
    Likes Received:
    0
    Its OK Skip, I know the rules. When I point out that your predictions come to nothing, I know I will have to pay the price for being right.

    It is a fact that Israel attacked something in Syria. Nobody knows exactly what. I don't see any evidence it was a "big" assault or that an installation was "destroyed". Neither Syria nor Israel are talking. These countries have been in conflict for decades, this is the latest flare up.

    I consider it an extension of the war in Lebanon. Syria is defying UN resolutions and continues to arm Hizbollah, which in turn attacks Israel, and Syrian intelligence assets seem to be assassinating every anti-Syrian politician in Beirut.

    But what exactly are you predicting? Conflict in the middle east? When was the last time that prediction wouldn't have come true?
     
  13. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

    Messages:
    12,910
    Likes Received:
    1,881
    Oh Pepik, you've got to stop relying upon AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE websites for info, simply because they DON'T TELL YOU THE TRUTH, OR JUST LEAVE IT OUT!

    Try this:
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article2512380.ece

    Here is what May or May NOT have taken place. You decide...

    In any case it had NOTHING to do with war with Lebanon.

    It's SYRIA gearing up to fight Israel (apparently).
     
  14. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

    Messages:
    844
    Likes Received:
    0
    Now its a fact...
    ...now its not! But somehow I am wrong anyway.
     
  15. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

    Messages:
    12,910
    Likes Received:
    1,881
    No, what is fact and what is fiction must be sorted from the details. Like whether there REALLY WAS any nuclear materials involved, or whether that is just another LIE to promote FEAR, and to justify AN ACT OF WAR, which is exactly what the Israeli's did.

    Fact is, I don't believe everything I read in the British Press anymore, and neither should you. There is ongoing PRESS censorship now in Britain, just like in the US. (THAT IS A FACT YOU CAN BANK ON!)

    And let's not forget it was BRITISH LIES that got us into the War in Iraq to begin with (45 minutes before Saddam unleashes WMD was their claim as I recall). That was the FINAL STRAW for those who were hesitant about backing this INSANE WAR!
     
  16. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

    Messages:
    10,027
    Likes Received:
    2
    I think the Syrians and Iranians are too smart to play into the hands of those that wish to escalate this war.

    Thank god for clear heads. Who actually would profit? Not the US or British taypayers, only the war machines and the elite guard.
     
  17. nate87

    nate87 Member

    Messages:
    210
    Likes Received:
    1
    did anyone see irans presidant on the BBC the other day, he stated in no uncertain terms they did not have and were not seeking nuclear weapons and they had no intentions of seeking war in the middle east.
     
  18. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

    Messages:
    10,027
    Likes Received:
    2
    Yeah, I've heard him state that numerous times, what nuclear developement they are doing is for energy/utility purposes solely. We want a green world, nuclear generation could lead to that. Why is that so hard for the western world to grasp?

    Perhaps because big oil rules the western world.

    I think the marketing consultants for the western world that are pushing their green agenda, have possibly short circuited the interests of the war machines that want control over middle eastern oil. Go figure. Even Greenspan said without the oil under the sand in Iraq, Sadaam wouldn't have been a force worth taking out.
     
  19. nate87

    nate87 Member

    Messages:
    210
    Likes Received:
    1
    because if the western world accepted that then they would have to think of new lies to feed to the population for war
     
  20. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

    Messages:
    10,027
    Likes Received:
    2
    Hey I waiting for Pepik to respond.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice