The Serial Fuck

Discussion in 'Free Love' started by Son of John, May 12, 2014.

  1. Son of John

    Son of John Banned

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    I would guess that there are very few marriages in our present age in which both the husband and wife have never fucked with anyone else. I am sure that in most cases, the husband has fucked a few women before, and in at least many cases, the new wife had given fucks to at least one other guy before she married.

    And, in many cases, one or both of them has fucked with several different partners, in some cases, so many others that they cannot remember who all of them were. If they are honest, when they are ready to get married, they will tell their potential "life-time partner" about their past experiences.

    So, given these circumstances, why would it be reasonable to expect that either of them would never again fuck with anyone else, besides their spouses? The answer is that it is not reasonable. The husband, no matter how he loves his wife, will soon enough admit that he still has the desire to fuck a variety of women. And his wife will also come to admit that she would like to share fucks with other men than her husband.

    The answer to this situation, of course, is for them, as a team, to find safe ways to satisfy their sexual needs. This may involved bringing other women into the bedroom, on a temporary basis, or the same with other men. But the important thing is that both the husband and wife are involved, and wanting for their marriage partner to be sexually satisfied, even if it is, for the preset, at least, with someone else.

    The ideal situation, of course, is for the husband and wife to find another couple (husband and wife) who feel the same way, and with whom they can have a meeting in which the husbands each fuck the wife of the other man, and ideally in the same room and in front of their marriage partners.

    I have seen the practice of sharing marital partners in nearly every conceivable way. The only thing I have not done is to fuck a married woman while her husband was not there. On the other hand, my wife has fucked with other men while I was not present, but I was not threatened by it. And I will have to admit that the most exciting for me is to be there to watch as another man fucks my wife!

    Now, what is the most exciting "arrangement" for you?
     
  2. buzzgunner

    buzzgunner 180 grains of diplomacy Lifetime Supporter

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    With today's medical and pharmaceutical technology, and advances in genetics, there's no mechanical a married man and woman shouldn't be able to fuck whoever either of them want (presumably with each others permission, just as a matter of courtesy.) The reason it's such a rare occurrence and so frowned upon socially is historical and social inertia.

    Prior to us having the ability to genetically tie a child to one man or another as father, it was frequently almost impossible to determine whether or not a boy's (I'm being deliberately gender-specific here) father was the same man to which the boy's mother was married. Given that it was common (as recently as the 1800s) that property generally passed from father to son (especially among the wealthy) it was vitally important that the bloodlines were no "corrupted". (It was much less of an issue if a woman had a girl child by another man, as daughters typically didn't inherent.) Because of that, with very few exceptions in history, a man could sleep around and produce all the bastards he wanted (they weren't his problem). OTOH, if a woman had a child (especially a son) by a man other than her husband, she frequently put her life (plus the life of her lover and her new child) at risk.

    As with so many other things in life, if you want a reason, just follow the money (property.) Of course, today, the real reason just boils down to "that's how we've always done it!"
     
  3. TheSamantha

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    Buzz, I don't get it. So in the past they had ways of finding out if the son wasn't the fathers? and why is the wife/lover/child no longer in danger just because of paternity tests?
     
  4. RainyDayHype

    RainyDayHype flower power Lifetime Supporter

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    I have to disagree. I thought people fuck and date whoever they please, and then they finally find the one. They're sick of all the bullshit and multiple partners. They fall in love with somebody they want to fuck for the rest of their lives, so they get married. That would be the "most exciting arrangement" for me, to find an amazing partner I could fuck (and make love to) for the rest of my life..
     
  5. -Yggdrasil-

    -Yggdrasil- Einherjar

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    My missus and I are engaged. We've only been with each other. I've gone into the details before but quickly again, we met online as friends from other sides of the country. Our freindship was awesome, we were very close. She came over and 9 years later the rest is history. Basically saved myself for her, she was all I ever wanted. I lost my virginity at 20 because of this. Of course now I'm reaching 29 and I have thoughts that maybe I lost my chance to be promiscuous after all of these years. I've never kissed another girl in a romantic way not hugged. I don't really know how to speak to women very well either, I only know my girl.
    I came out to her about this, about how I didn't think that my life would ever end up that way and I was disappointed in myself for not enjoying the social life of sex before I settled down. My main concern was her feelings though because I thought that I was in the wrong regardless but as I get older it haunts me and the emotions get stronger and stronger every time.
    So I bought up swinging with her as an avenue to explore other people without cheating on one another as everyone I know whores it up at brothels with our very relaxed laws on prostitution in good old Canberra, Australia. She said it wasn't the worst the idea. I guess I think I'm ready for it. I can differentiate the act and emotions.. In my head I can anyway. Out in real life I'm not so sure, I've only experienced that one girl still, I dunno what to do with anyone else. Missus obviously needs a lot more time adjust her emotions like that and I don't know if she every will or if she even can. That puts me in a bit of a bind and I often wonder how selfish can I really be? It means a lot to me though, it's a complicated subject in this day and age but no matter how taller and bigger I am over everybody else, to the point where even guys at the pub assume I'm hung like a horse and must have a good sex life being so tall and "desirable" which I'm not, I just feel so inferior to everybody else. I get so jealous just looking at a teenagers with girls and thinking man fuck even they're going to be doing better than me by the time their 16. How pathetic am I?

    I dunno what the fuck any of that had to do with this thread, but that's my scenario. There are people that haven't slept with others before.
     
  6. MochaMood

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    I'm ready to go back to monogamy soon I think. Also, my husband has absolutely no desire to fuck any other women. Ironically, if he did have, I probably wouldnt be leaving him.
     
  7. Just_a_woman

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    The best arrangement for me is no arrangement. You don't want it to become boring by repeating on a theme.

    Total freedom. You fuck whoever you want, anyway you want, when you want it. The only constraint is that all people involved have to be consenting adults.

    If my husband decides to fuck someone else, it should be for his own pleasure, not to satisfy my fetishes.
     
  8. LM2014

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    I agree with RainyDayHype 100%.

    As to the original post, I was a virgin and my husband was not. I'm perfectly happy with him and have no desire to cheat or have sex with another man. According to him, he doesn't want anyone else because he enjoys sex with me more than with his ex girlfriends and we are compatible.

    I am curious as to what another guy would feel like, but it's just idle curiosity. I am 100% satisfied with DH, so why would I risk it for something that will probably be worse?

    I'm sure you heard the joke about the women and the hotel- each floor has a "better" man all the way to the top floor. They still want more (because they are never satisfied) so they go to the roof and there is no man there, because a perfect man doesn't exist.

    The same could be said about men. I think whether you are happy with your current situation depends on YOU. Only you know what can make you satisfied and happy. Perhaps for some, that means multiple partners. For others, that means monogamy. It's only wrong if a person who wants multiple partners gets with a monogamous one and they cheat. As long as everyone is on the same page, consenting adults can do whatever they want.
     
  9. TheGhost

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpQqH4H_SUQ"]Clerks: 37 Dicks - YouTube
     
  10. buzzgunner

    buzzgunner 180 grains of diplomacy Lifetime Supporter

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    I didn't mean to imply that they were no longer in danger (physical or legal), I simply meant that, in the past, there was virtually no way to prove that the child that a woman bore was not fathered by a man other than her husband.
     
  11. RainyDayHype

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    I think that's kind of romantic that she's the only one you've been with. Sleeping around is not so great. Also, you don't have to worry about any ex drama or jealousy, because that does happen. It's nice to have that one person. You're lucky you've found that . If you've been with someone for nine years that's kind of a record. Most people don't last that long in a relationship. Now, if you're having doubts I'd say that's not grounds for marriage. Your wife doesn't deserve to be cheated on down the road, and you don't need to be misserable with wondering..
     
  12. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Since I've already done a thread of my own on this exact same subject (http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=435889&f=283), I won't rehash it all here, but I will say that it's great that you and your wife have been able to communicate openly about this, and reach agreement on solutions that work for you. :cheers2:

    Pure monogamy doesn't have a great track record for long term success in the US.
     
  13. Sallysmart

    Sallysmart Raynstorm Serenade

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    I am agreeing with this also. Yes I have been with other men in my past but with one at a time and I did expect him to be with me and so a relationship ended for one reason or another, never over one of us messing around. I am not the kind to take a man for what he's got but in this case I might just because he had it in another dish not getting it that I am not open for other peoples diseases and pathogens they may carry that would come back to me.
    Once with a man we trust each other and stick with each other unless it ends for another reason.
    My first request in a new relationship is, if you want others just let me know, first! Before you drop the laundry for them. I will not mix with others and is why I won't mess around either. My personal privacy is a big matter to me as well as the health of my privates and if ever a guy told me he messed around While with me then it's done. It is also this reason that I never have sex with someone I don't feel an attachment to and find the same from him before I drop any laundry. Sex is a very meaningful thing to me, it means I love you and want you there, in my life and all over me. You are the one.
    The guys I have been with had an X or two or three but are not the swinging type. They know I have had a few X's and are ok with it and any I have been with wanted me also to say I wouldn't either. I don't know what I would do if ever I got herpies or another disease from sexual activity outside the relationship. I do know it would take away my own sex life. Peeps with herpies and other diseases have to be open and honest and that limits who you could find as a partner then. Peeps are afraid of shit like that.
     
  14. enhancer13

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    I don't really think you can say that everyone out there wants to fuck someone other then their partner at some point whether they have been with others or not. Everyone is different. My lady and I sometimes bring others in to our play time, but it is not about fucking other people so much to us as experiencing group play and other acts we can't do with just the two of us. I can honestly say that it would not bother me at all if she was the only one I ever had sex with again in my life. Nothing else has came even close to matching what I have with her and I get way more out of being with someone I actually have a good emotional connection to. She is still the one I am always thinking about when it comes to sexual thoughts.
     
  15. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Bisexuality is also incompatible with monogamy.
     
  16. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    So i cant be sexually attracted to both men and women but only fuck one of them? Because i am sexually attracted to quite a few women but i only fuck the one i am with.
     
  17. enhancer13

    enhancer13 Senior Member

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    Well I never said we were practicing monogamy, because we are not. I was saying some do and it is not a problem for them at all. Also would not be a problem with me.

    I am not bi, but my lady is and that does not make her incompatible with monogamy. She also would have no problem just being with one person.

    We live the lifestyle we do, because we can. Not, because we feel we need more then what we have.

    Everyone is different and there is no right or wrong way to have a relationship with someone. Just what works for you.
     
  18. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    You just wouldn't be a practicing bisexual.

    I'm not a slut anymore in terms of practices, but I still think that way.

    I didn't say otherwise.
     
  19. 3rd Husband

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    I agree with the premise that a very small percentage of married people have never fucked with anyone besides their marriage partners. And in the case of the wives, how many girls, when asked by the guy who wants to marry them, "Have you ever fucked with any other guy" would truthfully answer "Yes!" if they felt that by saying so, their fiancés might not want them, because they were "used"?

    So, I am in doubt when some man posts that his wife was a virgin when they married. How does he know? Just because she told him that she was, does he automatically accept that as the truth? My first wife claimed to be a virgin, as I was, but later it came out that several other guys had had their cocks in her before I arrived.

    My point is that we will never know for sure, if our partners have fucked with others before us, so why not just accept that fact that they probably have and build your marriage on the fact that you are "the one" now and get down to enjoying sex together and not worry about whether any other guy has ever been between her legs?

    And, to be perfectly honest, the one thing that excites me the most about my sexual relationship with my wife is knowing that several other guys have also enjoyed "being with" her, and probably have long-lasting memories of what they did together.

    And, in complete honesty, how many of the men who visit this site have had the experience of having another man tell them, in all sincerity "Your wife is the best fuck I've ever had!"
     
  20. TheSamantha

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    Doesn't anybody else notice just how similar Son of John is to 3rd Husband??
     

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