The scientific teachings of christianity

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Columbo, Nov 18, 2006.

  1. Ikdenkhetniet

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    Yes good point.
    Thats why Im sticking with Creationists.
    They base their conclusions on evidence, not a made-up story about morphing soup and 'billions of years'.
     
  2. Posthumous

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    Creationists wouldn't know evidence if it crawled up their ass and died. Now you know what that smell is. :D
     
  3. Ikdenkhetniet

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    Question:

    Would anyone here have any objection to a typical science classroom being introduced with two books.
    One being an presentation of evidence 'for' the current 'Evolutionism' scenario.
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    Another being a the same thing 'for' the current 'Creationist' models and theory.
    Students would be given an equal measure of time for both.

    Would anyone object to such a scenario and if you did object.. Why?
     
  4. Posthumous

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    Question:

    Why should your groundless load of pigcrap be thrust upon the students of a country founded on the separation of church and state ahead of all of the creation stories proposed by other faiths?
     
  5. scratcho

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    Don't ya' just wanta flick his nose several times to see if he notices?
     
  6. Ikdenkhetniet

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    And this is where you are caught out.
    This is where the people using courthouses to censor ID are caught out.

    If indeed this Creationism stuff is so ridiculous and without merit then what a perfect opportunity you would have to totally expose it for once and for all!
    Evofundies should be just wetting their pants with glee and be trying to force Creationism into a comparison.
    After all... it would just expose the load for all to see!

    Nope. The fact of the matter is that Evofundies are absolutley going to every length (including using technicalities in courts to block knowledge) and everything else in the book.
    Because you know its downright threatening, will be taken seriously and if a generation of students saw this material it would be the death of Evolutionism in 5-4-3-2...

    What can I say.. its hilarious to see the outrageous determination to block and censor Creationism by people who claim its something so obviously flawed and silly.
     
  7. Posthumous

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    "Evofundies?" lol How lame. Did you come up with that?


    And how pitiful are these nutjobs accepting without any evidence that: the earth is only 6k years old; Moses parted the Red Sea; some human named Adam was not birthed like every other animal; Noah had two of every friggin animal on earth including KANGAROOS :D on a boat; and believe a VIRGIN gave birth to some dude that ROSE from the DEAD :D, yet completely ignore the mountain of geological, archeological, genetic, anatomic, and radiometric evidence in direct conflict with their pipedream creation myth.
     
  8. paintballer687

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    I know this is an older post, but I would like to point out that when you are trying to discredit Islam you are treating it as their culture, interesting enough you do the exact opposite for Christianity. Not surprising though, seeing as you do have that extreme bias for Christianity and such a high intolerance for anything that you don't agree with, regardless of evidence, which you seem to lack there of.
    http://logica.ugent.be/albrecht/thesis/ArabAlgebra.pdf
    They did in fact create Algebra, by the way.

    The scientific method was born in the Glorious Revolution, most definately not by any clergymen. And our view of physics, most noteably general relativity and quantum mechanics, obviously didn't come from Christianity. In all honesty, I think you come up with this crap on the spot.
     
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    Yeah, he seems to come up with a lot of names, in fact I think every argument he's ever presented has been a creation from within the inner workings of his mind. Hmm...
     
  10. scratcho

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    Trying to make points with a hardcore christian is like talking to a radio that's on.How they can turn FAITH into science is beyond the beyondo.
     
  11. Ikdenkhetniet

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    Its amazing to me how many Evoluvvers cannot discern the false dichotemy they make between 'science' and 'faith'.
    Its as if they cant comprehend where and why both start and end.

    Once you understand there is no dichotemy between science and faith (not what you think thats for sure) once you understand that - you will be free.
     
  12. paintballer687

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    I never said that; being Muslim and studying to become a physicist there's no way I believe in a dichotomy between science and religion.
     
  13. 3DJay

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    Okaaaay. Carnivores...40 days, 40 nights, 150 days...plus a number of years after, while the animal populations grew enough for them to start eating.

    Please explain, how they survived.


    Peace
     
  14. Posthumous

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    I'm still waiting for the explanation as to how he got kangaroos and other marsupials on the ark. Did they swim the Indian Ocean or hop over it?
     
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    Maybe Noah parted the sea and the marsupials trotted along the dry seabed. It worked for Moses, about 180 'begats' later. At any rate, it must have been a pretty damn big ship to keep all those critters in steerage. Either that or he had a good press agent, public relations man, spin doctor, what have you.

    These stories make good campfire tales on a blustery night 3,000 years ago in the desert somewhere in the mid-east, with all the stars gleaming down inviting you to paint mythical figures called constellations.

    The actual story of evolution and the fantastic creatures that existed long ago is weirder and more shocking than just about any of the myths that the Old Testament came up with. Pterodactyls or plesiosaurs anyone? Mammals returning to the sea and evolving into whales? Weird beyond any shepherd's pipe dream.
     
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    I would like to point out that Noah's story is supposed to be a miracle, meaning it would not have to follow logic by nature.
     
  17. 3DJay

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    That's fine. The miracle is all explained in the bible though, right? So we can use it as a Creationism science book?


    Peace
     
  18. paintballer687

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    Hey, I'm not defending it I'm just saying don't ask for logical evidence from a miracle.
     
  19. Ikdenkhetniet

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    Id like to point out that Noahs Deluge is not a 'Miracle' account with the one supernatural event being a wireless communication from God to Noah before the events take place.

    It is written as a literal event.
    It is subject to physics and logic although you just 'asking questions out loud' and failing to get an explanation does not equal a 'logical inconsistancy'.

    For example, you may very well notice marsupials mostly live on a separated piece of the Earth.
    That can square up with Genesis but its a motherfucker for any Evolutionists.
    How a marsupial shows up on the other side of the planet (Opposum) and your the ones with ridiculous 'sea-fairing' marsupials that what... jumped on logs and floated across the oceans lol?

    Yeah woops.

    But seriously, Genesis presents itself as a literal account of real people, places, physics and is subject to them.
    Its not a 'Miracle' account like maybe the burning bush etc.
     
  20. dd3stp233

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    I would, because science is taught is a science class and mythology(creationism) is not science so has no place there. And, yes, christianity is nothing more then mythology, except that some still believe its true. It is essebtailly no different then any of the other mythologies that are present in other modern or/and ancient societies.
     
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