The Role of the Mind in Health

That's what "holistic" means, right? The WHOLE picture.

Diet is important, but an awful lot of people approach the
issue with a sin/virtue mentality and the fundamental
belief that the body is inherently prone to illness.

I see these people in natural and health-food stores all
the time. They have "perfect" diets and they are never
healthy and never comfortable.

The simple fact is, that the human body is inherently
healthy. If that wasn't the case there wouldn't _be_
a human race. Modern medicine and nutrional science
are very recent things. And most of the people who lived
before us, like the Native Americans, were much healthier
than we are.

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Note that their diets consisted of, on average, 85% or
better plant foods. It wasn't the "warriors" with their bows
and arrows that fed the tribe, it was the women and children
and elders, collecting wild edible plants or growing them in
their gardens.

Many of the Native American tribes were expert farmers,
and they taught _us_ how to farm. Many of our current
staples came from them: Corn (maize for you Europeans),
beans, squash, cucumbers, potatoes, peppers, etc.

And tomatoes. There were no tomatoes in Italian cooking
until tomatoes arrived from the New World a few hundred
years ago.

A very good book on this subject is Jack Weatherford's
"Indian Givers: How the Indians of the Americas
Transformed the World"

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So eat sensibly but ignore the propaganda of the Medical
Industrial Complex and believe in the truth, which is that
your body, like any natural ecosystem, is inherently
healthy.

Eating sensibly means eating mostly or all plants that are
grown nearby and naturally and are reasonably fresh and
uncontaminated with preservatives or other chemicals
and not overly processsed.

Remember: The Medical Industrial Complex only makes money
if you're sick, or afraid of being sick, so despite the good
intentions of many practicioners, you have to keep in mind that
their corporate bosses (investors) have the final say.

"To be healthy, you have to believe in health." --Seth

Littlefoot

 

Sure does, Skip.

For others tuning in:

"The Nature of Personal Reality" channeled by Jane Roberts

"Part Two: Your Body as Your Own Unique Living Sculpture.
Your Life as Your Most Intimate Work of Art, and the Nature
of Creativity as it Applies to Your Personal Experience."

Here's another favorite Seth quote of mine:

"Nature _is_ supernatural."

LIttlefoot

 

"I'm a Plant Eaaaaaaaateeeeeer" *sings to the rythmn of the Nelly Furtado song and runs ashamed* haha
(no, I dont like that song)

"It's all in the mind". I've spent since my last years of highschool saying that, still true, still say it. I mean I've seen how if Im "sick" I can make myself worse or better by just changing my mentality and it's like that with just everything.

 

Pretty sharp for a high school 'kid'. It _is_ all in our minds. We live in the
body of our beliefs. They aren't physical. They are an 'electromagnetic
pattern' that lies just 'beneath' the surface of physical reality. Or just
'above' it.

But you've got to be practical, too.

And I think that being practical is what _this_ forum is about.

Maybe we need another one here devoted to the role of the mind
in health.

You listening, Skip?

Oh. I'm a plant eater too. Nothing but plants. For longer than you've
been alive.

This time, anyway.....

Nice ta meet ya,

LIttlefoot

 

no.. it was not the "warriors" that fed the tribes.. it were the huntsmen.. whether you want to believe it or not.. the native americans depended heavily on hunting.. hunting all sorts of animals fron deer to buffalo.. they hunted these creatures for their hides.. and other body parts for weapons.. but the native americans did not believe in waste so they did eat the flesh.. i understand you're trying to get the point across that they did eat veggies/berries/fruit/roots.. but dont make it sound like thats all they did

 

I think what he was trying to say was that they were healthier, because their food was fresh and completely natural. I dont think he was trying to say that they didnt hunt or ate meat.
Just think about today's food, meat, veggies, everything. It's all so processed and "made better" to last "longer". I just think the OP was making a point on the benefits of organic food.

 

^^^ well if that is the case.. sorry to the OP.. I totally agree with the fact that food is processed in a manor way less than pleasing.. but it don't make things easy when organics are insanely expensive compared to non-organic.. less is involved in organics.. no pesticides.. no preservatives.. no enhancers... but yet its more expensive???

 

There are a few reasons for that. One is that Organic Farming & Gardening is often more labor intensive. But the biggest reason is plain old supply and demand.
High demand + low supply = high prices.

Peace,
poor_old_dad

 

I LOVE that song!! lol...

I remember when i kept being sick (it was horrible) i told myself i wasnt ill, i wasnt sick and i felt fine... It kept the pain at bay... I wonder if it works with colds seeing as im always with one of those...

Though i have to say Yoga seriously helped my family. It really did.

Round here alot of Organic stuff isnt that much more expensive save a few foods...

 

I suffer from really bad allergies too. Basically to dust and pollen, things that are EVERYWHERE. It's funny because back in Santo Domingo they were so much worse than here in Ottawa and even when Im in US, they arent as bad as they were back home.
I can even breathe normally, to me that's a luxury.

 

Right on! : )

 

I've just found these threads on diet, fasting etc so I don't know if anyone will read this but I have a fairly mixed diet of veg, fruit and some fish and meat and never think about illness or the like. I just assume I am healthy. I've never seen a doctor in over 8 years, in fact since I decided I wasn't going to pay to see one and I hadn't at that time sussed out the system in this country. I have got totally fucked knees but find that exercise in moderation, no weight gain and little saturated fat keep things in control without the need for anti inflamatories. I'm my own worse enemy though. Went surfing for the first time in 10 years the other day and could hardly walk for 2 days!

 

what are you talking about?? all other societies from ours lived in a horrible struggle for survival in the mud!! everyone knows this!

 

You are incorrect. Studies have long and consistently shown that Neolithic peoples get around 75% of their calories from plant sources. Instead of being known as "hunter-gatherers", they should instead be called "gatherer-hunters".

There are no doubt exceptions to this general rule to be found throughout the world, but this finding has held up across continents and across millennia.

This is not to say that Neolithic people do not hunt at all, or that the importance of hunting should be minimized. And what you say about the relationship between the buffalo and the Plains Indian is true.

But the fact is that, in general, plant sources account for a much higher proportion of these peoples' diet than do animal sources.