The Relevance Of Quantum Colapse

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  1. thedope

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    Our language gives us the world we see. You say it is so. Some one else says that's not so it's like this. We both see what what see. What we don't see is what is commonly there. How can the world be different things. How can there be multiple realities. If we are in different worlds how come we are speaking to one another.

    We are speaking our view into our existential frame. The reason the views are disparate is nobody knows what they are talking about. We see a meaningless world. There is no mystery in quantum collapse. It comes from the quantum state. the digitized expression of the conceiving mind.
     
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    Techinically each person could be rendering a different world around them with their senses, a tree could be any object you've become accustom to naming tree

    But I believe that's what makes art so powerful. We can share that we do indeed experience the same reality, and that the trees in your world, and the trees in mine are the very same
     
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    What is the technique? If it is technically so we don't know how to use it. Who would have for themselves what they don't want?

    Your belief does only one thing. Affirm your language.
     
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    Have you noticed it is only nature we agree on. we all find the same geographic features in the same place. Look at the map.
     
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    What we don't agree on is meaning. Meaning is expressed in words. If we don't get the meaning it's because we don't know the meaning of words. Our modern relationship with words is developed in relative ignorance. We speak a language that began long ago and is handed down to us with any error in current identification included in the meaning we glean and posit with words. In one moment all our discussions involve a fundamental perception. the earth is the center of the universe. As we discover what is we begin to move our discussion along.

    Notice perception is not knowledge as perception changes when more is known, but it can lead to it.
     
  6. AceK

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    Perception is our internal reality, we are forever isolated from external reality, stuck inside of our own minds. Everything we observe is seen through the lens of perception.
     
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  7. xenxan

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    Nature is the constant in all reality. Man cannot manipulate its change. At the end of any given day, nature has and will always remain the original reality that we came from and can destroy us at will. She is alive, we just arrogantly claim ourselves as top dog and disregard her and as we see, her fury is never dealt with easily. Without Nature the Earth is an unbalanced world of destruction.

    Nature is the closest thing there is to an actual God, if, it is not ourselves.

    ( I am not just talking trees and plants) but ALL nature
     
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    Does anybody else just read the word "Quantum" and start giggling to themselves because it's all just made up?
    But you can start any thread and throw Quantum up in there and people think you know what you're talking about.

    :D
     
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    Perception is not absent it's attending symbols. Why the assumption of more than one reality, internal external?
    I posit that we haven't seen that is so even though we are together here in it. Obviously our view is developing.
    What does the world look like without our definitive assertions on it?
     
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    Reality destroys reality is a contradiction in terms. You are painting a confusing view.
     
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    the number one is a quantum
    a quantum is a count
     
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    Look out, professor in the house.
     
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    In quantum physics they count particles.
     
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    It's not rocket science it's quantum physics. It's the language you use.
     
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    You are the worlds highest authority in what you see.
     
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    I'm using English atm, so it's "Bullshit" no matter what you call it.
     
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    You prove my point. But don't know the meaning of the words. If it is bull shit it is not meaningful.
     
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    It is so because you say so. What if it is not so, What would you see?
     
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    You look but you don't see
    and you hear but you do not listen.
    Pythagoras, astrophysics, e=mc2
     
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    It is our qualifying language that gives us a different view. What is is apparent. An apple we all relate to in the same way. We may have differing tastes about whether an apple is something we enjoy eating but we all accept it is an apple. We make solid meaningful distinctions on the basis of same or different. An apple is an apple, but a pear is different not the same as apple.
    In relating our view of the world we insert belief and so we see a meaningless world. We don't confine ourselves to what we distinctly determine but want to arrange everything to our satisfaction problem is that is not idle in it's effects. It exhibits a hostile world.
     
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