The real cause of Islamic terrorism

I got this from the Islam forum. I felt it appropriate enough:

http://www.islamonline.com/cgi-bin/news_service/spot_full_story.asp?service_id=712

 

Any person who has made observations on the state and progress of the human mind, by observing his own, cannot but have observed that there are two distinct classes of what are called thoughts — those that we produce in ourselves by reflection and the act of thinking, and those that bolt into the mind of their own accord. I have always made it a rule to treat those voluntary visitors with civility, taking care to examine, as well as I was able, if they were worth entertaining, and it is from them I have acquired almost all the knowledge that I have.

--Thomas Paine ( Age of Reason)

 

Posting an article that shows how Baha'is are being targeted in Iran by various groups in education as well as in business...this is evidence of a general concerted effort to put pressure on Baha'is and violates their rights under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights...

Everyone should deplore this heinous acts committed against the bahais. I hope all those who read this urge their government to pressurize the Iranian government to stop perpetrating excesses against the Bahais, and not to violate their human rights.


Here's the article:

http://www.bahai.org/persecution/iran/update

 

“Intuition is the supra-logic that cuts out all the routine processes of thought and leaps straight from the problem to the answer.”

---Robert Graves

 

Perpetration of the Armenian Genocide by Islamic terrorists




It is estimated that more than one and a half million armenians were slaughtered by the Islamic terrorists during the armenian genocide in the Ottoman Empire.

It is widely acknowledged to have been one of the first modern, systematic genocides, as many Western sources point to the sheer scale of the death toll as evidence for a systematic, organized plan to eliminate the Armenians. The event is also said to be the second-most studied case of genocide.To date twenty-one countries have officially recognized it as genocide.






Process and camps of deportation


The remaining bones of the Armenians of Erzinjan.The Armenians were marched out to the Syrian town of Deir ez-Zor and the surrounding desert. A good deal of evidence suggests that the Ottoman government did not provide any facilities or supplies to sustain the Armenians during their deportation, nor when they arrived. The Ottoman government also prevented the deportees from supplying themselves. By August 1915, the New York Times reported that "the roads and the Euphrates are strewn with corpses of exiles, and those who survive are doomed to certain death. It is a plan to exterminate the whole Armenian people."

Ottoman troops escorting the Armenians not only allowed others to rob, kill and rape the Armenians, but often participated in these activities themselves. Deprived of all possessions and marched into the desert by a hostile and desperate foe, hundreds of thousands of Armenians perished.

“ Naturally, the death rate from starvation and sickness is very high and is increased by the brutal treatment of the authorities, whose bearing toward the exiles as they are being driven back and forth over the desert is not unlike that of slave drivers. With few exceptions no shelter of any kind is provided and the people coming from a cold climate are left under the scorching desert sun without food and water. Temporary relief can only be obtained by the few able to pay officials ."



On the Middle Eastern front, the British military engaged Ottoman forces in southern Syria and Mesopotamia. British diplomat Gertrude Bell filed the following report after hearing the account of a captured Ottoman soldier:

“ The battalion left Aleppo on 3 February and reached Ras al-Ain in twelve hours....some 12,000 Armenians were concentrated under the guardianship of some hundred Kurds...These Kurds were called gendarmes, but in reality mere butchers; bands of them were publicly ordered to take parties of Armenians, of both sexes, to various destinations, but had secret instructions to destroy the males, children and old women...One of these gendarmes confessed to killing 100 Armenian men himself...the empty desert cisterns and caves were also filled with corpses...





Influence of the Armenian Genocide on Adolph Hitler




The Armenian Genocide is often speculated to have influenced Adolf Hitler, owing to his various references to the Ottoman killings of Armenians.The extent of Hitler's knowledge of the Armenian Genocide is unclear, though he did refer to their destruction several times. The most notable quote attributed to Hitler on the Armenians is excerpted from an August 1939 military conference, prior to the invasion of Poland:

“ I have issued the command -- and I’ll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad -- that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formation in readiness -- for the present only in the East -- with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space [Lebensraum] which we need. Who, after all, speaks to-day of the annihilation of the Armenians?



We must already be thinking of resettlement of millions of men from Germany and Europe. Migrations of people have always taken place. Are we really going to remain a nation of have-nots forever? We have the capacity to rouse and lead the masses against this situation. We intend to introduce a great resettlement policy; In 1923 little Greece could resettle a million men. Think of the biblical deportations and the massacres of the Middle Ages and remember the extermination of the Armenians.
Adolph Hitler in an interview with Richard Breiting that apeared in the German daily newspaper Leipziger Neueste Nachrichten (4 May 1931)






Quotes with respect to the Armenian Genocide


The Sultan's proclamation [of war] was an official public document, and dealt with the proposed Holy War [Jihad] only in a general way, but about this same time a secret pamphlet appeared which gave instructions to the faithful in more specific terms...It was a lengthy document full of quotations from the Koran, and its stile was frenzied in its appeal to racial and religious hatred. It described a detailed plan of operations for the assassination and extermination of all Christians except those of German nationality.

---Henry Morganthau, in Secrets of the Bosphorus (1918) London, Hutchinson & Co. pp. 106-7.


The Armenian population which is being expelled from its homeland is not only being subjected to the greatest misery but also to a total extermination (27 June 1915) — The manner in which the Armenian are being deported for resettlement purposes is tantamount to death a verdict for the affected people. (1 July 1915) — the time will come when Turkey will have to account for this policy of extermination (13 August 1915).
---Johann Markgraf Pallavicini, Austrian Ambassador to Turkey, 1906-1918.


Thirty thousand Kurds and a million Armenians were killed in Turkey. Almost no one dares speak but me, and the nationalists hate me for that.
---Orhan Pamuk, Internationally recognized Turkish author, awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature (2006) in an interview with Swiss newspaper Tagesanzeiger (2005)



Kill every Armenian man, woman, and child without concern.

----Mehmed Talat Pasha, Minister of the Interior, Otoman Empire (24 April 1915)

 

to all the above 9 pages, one word

haha

 

Thanks joker.

 

I wonder...maybe the REAL cause of Islamist terrorism, and in fact, all terrorism is the basic violent nature of human beings. Probably, this is something like a left-over in us from a previous stage of evolution.

I think that probably, it is useless to blame this or that philosophy or religion for human aggression. These things can be, and often are, used as a kind of rationale for violence, but it is a case of 'rationalization' - the base impulse of violence seeking some justification.

What is called 'religious' terrorism etc, is really 'tribal' or even 'herd' violence which is based on an outmoded view of life on earth.

I'd say that either we change pretty soon, or it may be too late.

Probably the only religious teachings which are useful are those which place emphasis on compassionate and humanistic values and actions.

 

Compassion and humanistic values and actions? Fancy that! What a concept!

 

As long as people believe in absurdities, they will continue to commit atrocities.

-- Voltaire


The best weapon against errors of every kind is reason.

---Thomas paine

 

Here is an interesting link on islamic terrorism with statistics and interesting photographs...


http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

 

nice little hate thread you got yourself here

 

Thank you. The hate is directed at islamic terrorism since the 7th century A.D. and to pay homage to all the millions of victims of islamic terrorism since the 7th century A.D. and to bring justice to each one of them , and to make sure that none of them is considered expendable or regarded as a mere statistic.