The real cause of Islamic terrorism

Discussion in 'Hinduism' started by niranjan, Feb 27, 2007.

  1. snake sedrick

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    I agree that terrorists are sick and sad people. I'm not really in favour of kiiling them, as that only creates 'martyrs', which is what the people who direct the terrorists want. Better to lock them up.

    As long as we have radical Islam though,I think we'll see more and more trouble. If the fundies ever take over in Saudi, as I fear they may well do one day, a huge war could be the result, which would make the current troubles look like nothing.

    Good idea on the part of Britain and America to continue to arm these people with modern weapons. Modern weapons that is, sold to a medieval regieme.

    Western arms dealers are as bad as terrorists, if not worse, as they don't have the excuse of ignorance and Islamic brainwashing to mitigate their activities.

    And of course, my own nation is so keen to cosy up to the Sauds that we won't even investigate the corruption and bribery involved in doing business in Saudi. Even though it's well known that it is Saudi money that is behind a lot of the terrorism, and Saudi traned Islamic hate preachers are active here. That's not to mention the utterly appalling human rights record of the evil bastards who run the palce. Chums of Prince Charles evidently......
     
  2. niranjan

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    And why not? We should point out evil and mistakes and make sure it doesn't happen again.
    You are simply assuming things in a very foolish manner. Krishna pointed out the evils of the kauravas, but did it feed anger and hate and negative emotions in him. He was only doing his duty. And I am similarly doing my duty and discussing it .


    I feel sorry for the terrorists, and also feel sorry for the innocent victims, which you are not bothered about, as they are just mere statistics.

    Your an idiot. What do you think Krishna would have done ?

    And what do you think about our prophet and 10 th sikh guru Govind Singh who created the holy khalsa and baptized saint-warriors to destroy islamic terrorism and to prevent the killing of innocent people and the outrage of hindu and sikh ladies by islamic terrorists.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Teg_Bahadur

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Gobind_Singh
     
  3. Bhaskar

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    Go wage your holy war then and leave us in peace. I have no time nor energy for people who substitute name-calling and meaningless rhetoric for rational argument. If you felt so strongly about it you'd be out there doing something constructive (or in your case, destructive) rather than ranting about it here. But no, you want others to fight your battlesd for you while you sit at home and philosophise about it.
     
  4. niranjan

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    As I said I dont need an ignoramus's permission for anything I wish to do. I depend on my own intelligence and logic , not on comments of guys like you who conveniently ignore the pain and suffering and deaths of millions of victims of islamic terrorism all over the world , as mere statistics and expendable,and nothing to be bothered about. This in itself is a good reflection of your hollow spirituality and compassion ( or lack of it ).




    And who needs your time and energy!!!!! My arguments have been perfectly rational and logical and I don't need your certificate for it.


    And again, who the hell are you to tell me what to do . Did you have to get my permission to post your stuff in this thread or others ? Neither do I.And I am only creating awareness of Islamic terrorism as shown by Swami Vivekananda and Guru Govind Singh, which is not at all in any way destructive.


    I have never stated that I want others to fight any battle for me. Islamic terrorism is not anything personal, it clearly is a global phenomenon and the whole of humanity is fighting it.

    And even if no one is fighting , I have no hesitation at all as a one man army to fight against it on my own .
     
  5. snake sedrick

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    Millions of victime? That's a wild exageration.


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    I don't think your one man army would have much chance. Maybe you'd do better to focus more on the positive than the negative, and avoid histrionics.
     
  6. niranjan

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    And do you think the offensive warfare by islamic fundamentalists against Europe, Asia and Africa was very 'peaceful'?

    In 1971 itself, 2.5 million hindus were slaughtered by Islamic terrorists in Bangladesh.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_atrocities


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    Lets see about that.


    I believe in pointing out the positive ( which is why i mentioned the sufis) and also pointing out the negative.

    Reality is neither positive or negative.


    Perhaps you should complain about that to the austrian officer who witnessed the torture of the bahais, or to John Eshoo, who was a survivor of the assyrian genocide. And you can also complain about that to the sikh scholars who documented the torture and murder of the sikh gurus and disciples. And there are many other guys and gals as well. You can complain to all of them, though I don't know whether anything good will come out of it.
     
  7. snake sedrick

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    Your first point hinges on the definition of 'terrorist'.


    Also, how many Muslims have been slaughtered by Hindus over the years?

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  8. niranjan

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    And which point is that !

    And how many muslims indeed have been slaughtered by Hindus!!!!!

    The gujarat riots, which is the only riots in modern times in India, started when Islamic terrorists put petrol bombs in a train containing hindu pilgrims, which resulted in 59 women and children being killed. You should also understand that Gujarat had also gone through the intense trauma of partition with Pakistan due to the violent demand of muslims, which had resulted in the deaths of many hindus.

    And when the 59 hindu women and children were killed by islamic terrorists, what happened was an instintive public outrage followed by mob violence by hindu militants which killed many islamic fundamentalists.

    I do not condone this at all, as this was reactive and not at all proactive, and the public should have left this to the government and police .

    Anyway the armed forces came to Gujarat and crushed all mob violence.



    And what is that supposed to mean!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  9. snake sedrick

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    Work it out for yourself.
     
  10. niranjan

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    And why should I ? You are the one who put it over here. So you are the one who is duty bound to explain it.
     
  11. snake sedrick

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    I don't think it's my 'duty' to explain anything. I suggest you use your intuition.


    It's quite simple - 'reality is what you can get away with'. Go figure.
     
  12. niranjan

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    I think you yourself has not figured it out , hence all the lame excuses.
     
  13. snake sedrick

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    I think you not being able to figure this out after all the claims to knowledge is a bit lame too.
    Maybe you should ask your guru.
     
  14. niranjan

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    And where have I made claims to knowledge !!!!!!
     
  15. snake sedrick

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    In just about every post you've made so far, the implication is that you 'know', whilst we lesser mortals wallow in ignorance.

    Maybe you should try to develop a sense of humour.
     
  16. niranjan

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    Nice trick, but it won't work. Whatever I have stated, I have backed it up with logical proofs and links, unlike you who is not ready to explain that phrase( probably because you don't know it yourself.)

    I think I already have one.
     
  17. snake sedrick

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    Your 'logical proofs' amount to zero. You have 'proven' nothing, just given your own opinions and your interpretations of the opinions of others.
     
  18. niranjan

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    And what do you think all my links on Islamic terrorism ( and which is but a sample ) is all about ?
     
  19. niranjan

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    Oh Niranjan...please just give it up. We know. What is the point to keep on telling us? There is always going to be bad things and intollerance in this world (from everyone)...what is the best way to fight it? By living life the best you can and being a good example.
     
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